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Topic: Growing Salvia in Tray with Pepper Plants  (Read 218 times)
 
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« on: July 06, 2008, 01:47:43 am »

I only have one other plant in the tray...the tray is 30" long and the other plant is already healthy. I was wondering if it was save to plant salvia in the tray with the pepper. The peppers are sun loving true..but im more curious as to whether or not the salvia will kill the pepper. If so...would placing a divider between them protect the pepper plant?
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 01:55:12 am »

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not really sure what you mean when you say a "tray."
I can't really get a mental image on a tray with two plants because i'm used to the trays with about 30 small seedling holes.
If you could possibly post a picture of what you're talking about, it would be very helpful.

But with no other knowledge of the setup, my gut instinct would be that Sally would like a place of her own and it would be easier to take care of her if you didn't have another plant attached.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 05:02:25 am »

Your gut instinct is correct: Salvia is a root room HOG and will entangle the 2 plants roots together as she grows. One Plant to a pot is my rule ...
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 10:22:04 am »

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not really sure what you mean when you say a "tray."
I can't really get a mental image on a tray with two plants because i'm used to the trays with about 30 small seedling holes.
If you could possibly post a picture of what you're talking about, it would be very helpful.

But with no other knowledge of the setup, my gut instinct would be that Sally would like a place of her own and it would be easier to take care of her if you didn't have another plant attached.

well maybe i should call it a planter instead. But it is a tray..its 30" long and prolly 8 inches deep. Just one hole for all the plants to go in..once again i think u guys call it a planter.

I know its a hog like sea mac said...but im thinking my pepper plant will have time to grow before the salvia kills it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 02:07:35 pm »

I have four coleus potted in a self watering planter of those dimentions, my two little salvia goddesses are in single self watering pots beside them, the only change I'm planning there is moving the salvias to much larger single plant self waterers when the plants grow some more root system. Mint family plants can be pernicious and will choke out nearly anything else. My dad once made the mistake of planting "just a few sprigs" of spearmint in a flowerbed, he ended up with a lovely, fragrant bed of spearmint and nothing else.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 12:37:43 am »

Eesh, I'd be scared not only to grow them together because roots taking over, but also because of cross pollination and screwing with the strain.  If you're planning on using the leaves, or letting others use them, I wouldn't do it.  I'm no genius about altering strains though, so who knows, I could be wrong.  Just my speculation.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 09:05:15 pm »

There shouldn't be any need to fear messing up your strain unless it dies.
The plant you have cannot alter its genetic material and become a new plant, especially if the two plants in question are not even of the same specie.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 10:20:38 am »

There shouldn't be any need to fear messing up your strain unless it dies.
The plant you have cannot alter its genetic material and become a new plant, especially if the two plants in question are not even of the same specie.

that's one thing that confuses me about ppl saying they have new strains of Salvia.

How can that be? We only have clones of a single plant, how can it produce its own genetic diversity?
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 11:08:22 am »

the wonderful randomness of genetics

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 11:28:44 am »

There were a few different strains found over the years, so the clones we have aren't all from one plant. Blosser seems to be the most popular, but there are other strains like Luna, Hofmann and Wasson, Cerro Quemado, Owens, and a few others. Also, genetics aren't copied exactly when seeds are produced, so that is how you can create different strains even from a plant that pollinates itself. Clones will always have the same genes as the mother plant, but seed grown plants will always have a slightly different genetic makeup from the mother.

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 01:03:19 am »

Sorry, I'm still learning.  Like I said, I'm no genius at genetically altering a strain...I just remembered back to some post I read on here a while ago saying it might mess up your salvia's potency if you grew it near other plants.  Maybe mints or other sages?
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 01:43:49 am »

i wouldn't think so so, even if they could hybridize, the new strain is expressed in the seeds, not the mother plant.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 01:00:21 am »

i wouldn't think so so, even if they could hybridize, the new strain is expressed in the seeds, not the mother plant.

I guess you're right, I didn't think of that.
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