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Topic: Salvia Divinorum Genetic Exchange program.  (Read 3637 times)
 
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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 06:50:04 am »

I am into the colchicine treatment thing.

Did a crap load of googling on the topic and got hold of some colchicine from the drug store. It is sold as a gout treatment and I needed a prescription but the lady was nice enough to give me 10 tablets.

I mixed it to a .2% concentration with agar I think and I tried it on one of my cuttings (Impatient me  Roll Eyes )

I applied a drop of agar to the very tip of the apical meristem but id died off after a few days.

I might try this again in the future but the mortality rate is high I guess. You need at least a hundred plants to begin with and the results vary. The idea is to get some 90% or close to 90% mutated plants and this increases the chances for mutated pollen to mix with mutated gene from another mutant plant. Then you still need to germinate and grow the seed and this creates a 100% mutated baby. Otherwise you can just grow your 90% mutant and take a cutting from a branch that looks 100% mutated until you get a perfect mutant.

I wonder how it will make her look though.

Colchicine is only one of a number of other chemicals you can use but access is limited to the average joe. Then there is radiation treatment.

Do Google if you like this sort of stuff. Not a big fan of mutating this way but I am into it because it could annoy authorities to have radically different looking plants to look for in years to come

ORR if a plant like salvia gains ornamental value in the general cultivation world due to mutation that is visibly appealing; this would outweigh its other qualities and it would make her legal to keep as a showpiece.  Grin

I don’t see a reason why they can’t do that already though. She is a pretty impressive plant.
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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 12:07:15 pm »

i think her flowers, especialy because of how rare and sensitive they are, already are worthy of show
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2008, 09:03:33 am »

Is the program still goin? B/c no one has posted in a few months, but if it is I would be interested in obtaining some other strains.
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2008, 09:49:37 am »

Is the program still goin? B/c no one has posted in a few months, but if it is I would be interested in obtaining some other strains.
My last copy of the Moon Maiden strain has died.

My 2 Aquarians and my 2 Phoenixs are getting bigger: by summers end I hope they will be ready to be parent plants. I'll post new pictures soon.
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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2008, 03:44:45 pm »

Sorry for your loss, but its cool you have those 2 other strains.
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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2008, 12:46:57 pm »

That is tragic about Moon Maiden, Sea Mac. It is everyone's loss. I hope as the days start to shorten, your hummers will get to work and give you some more seeds!
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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2008, 06:32:04 pm »

I have 2 Phoenix and 2 Aquarian, Plus one Luna.

I've had them since November (or Later) and they are adding about a foot a month to their height. I'll post photos I took (a couple of weeks apart) of them later ...

Just Imagine my precious Luna "Round Leaves" getting as tall as Sally is NOW! She's well underway towards it!
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« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2008, 09:50:33 pm »

Im having trouble getting my luna to grow. Im not even sure if it has successfully rooted.......
Im definitely thinking about growing luna as a decorative plant. Its prettier than the other strains and seems to be less susceptible to periods of low humidity.
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2008, 11:13:56 pm »

On April 30th the gang of Rare Plants were this big:

(Luna's on the right end.)

On May 30th the gang of Rare Plants were this big:


So you can SEE how big they got in ONE Month ... and they are MUCH Bigger than that today! Soon they'll be as tall as Me! Notice how large the plants are, relative to their Support poles, in each photo. In April they grew past the ends of those poles!

WOW! I'm stoked! Super Plants taking off with a-foot-a-month growth rates! Leaves bigger than my hand!
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« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2008, 08:31:58 pm »

I grew salvia for 4 years before my mother died at the same time as my hydroponics system failed.  Needless to say I am in the market to get new plants.  I originally bought my plants from an add in the local newspaper.  I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia (Canada) and thoughts on where i should get new plants from? (i'm going to grow them indoors as our winters are a tad harsh)
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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2008, 01:52:25 am »

I'm beginning to propagate the Phoenix and Aquarian Strains now for shipping in 1 - 3 months ...


On the Right (My left) side (Under the Window) There is are 2 Phoenix strain Plants.

I'm petting my main Luna plant "Round Leaves". Behind me are 3 LARGE Plants (Presumed H/W) Sweetie, Sally, and Queenie.

On the Left is one of the 2 Aquarian Parents.

There should be a few rare propagates made soon ...
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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2008, 07:25:16 pm »

where did you get your strains from seamac?
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« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2008, 04:13:11 pm »

where did you get your strains from seamac?
You should go look at my ORIGINAL self published grow log:  http://members.cox.net/thegarden/ even though I stopped updating it. It 'kind of' gets continued here: 
http://www.salviasource.org/index.php?page=Gallery&per_page=32&cat=&poster_id=481 and in my "Official" grow log on this site "Square Sticked Sage Page".  The Photos start with a photo of the stick in a pot I brought home from the Nursery and progress through the death of Momma Kat (grubs in her pot ate her roots up and she died and I cried) and the rise of Calvin and the other 2nd Generation clones. I'm into a 3rd generation now and they won't stop coming! I'm out of Room!

I got a plastic stake in Momma Kat's ("Momma Kat" was my first and ONLY Salvia Plant I bought) Pot when I bought her at a local nursery (2 days after my wife died):

(I think she's a mutant strain from Mars: she WAS Self-Fertile after all!)

She bore me 2 1/2 dozen Viable Salvia divinorum seeds in 2006 ... Unprecedented! I sent them to Daniel Siebert in Malibu and he got 11 of them to germinate!  3 of those precious fragile seedlings grew to full size and became genetically unique Strains of Salvia divinorum (I have 2 of those Strains still Growing in my Garden!)

They Are:

Ph♀enix (Spelled with a Venus Glyph instead of an "o"  - Named after my dear departed wife ...  Cry )

Aquarian - My Sign, and I DID carry water to them, in jugs, at one time! Named after me ... heh-heh-heh

Moon Maiden - in honor of a pagan friend.

My copy of Moon Maiden died: but I have two each of the Ph♀enix Strain parents and of the Aquarian Strain parents still going. Jupe and Daniel have Moon Maiden still ...

Jupe sent me a rooted cutting of Luna on Halloween and she's about as tall as me now ... I'm petting her in that photo!

Next year I hope to exclusively ship Luna Strain plants and occasionally some of the RARE seed raised ones ... http://sageseeds.info/tutorials/ship.php 
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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2008, 03:50:08 pm »

.....haha...good news for me then...I can pawn off all those pesky nodes I end up with each fall.....Beware of the Large Box of Lunas Shocked Shocked

 Moonmaiden still struggling, but growing...just...weirdly.....stressing for some reason, I keep clearing other plants off her, but she is slower....this may be what happens to weaker strains in the wild...just overwhelmed by larger and stronger plants.

Phoenix and Aquarian lay down to rest...up popped all the nodal plants.....so they are doing well, and should start showing pre-flower elongation soon, as daylength drops.

Jupiter appears to be identical to all other strains, vigorous, green etc. Grin Grin should have  some cuttings by fall. I want to see it flower first, otherwise I could take cuttings now, but I really dislike cutting anything.....

gonna go shoot new pic and then post here. later Jupe
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« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2008, 01:26:45 am »

Carl... Hi, It's Jalene, HippyDave's friend. I forgot to forward your e-mail address to my e-mail and almost lost touch with you.. David is once again indisposed for a short time. Dave wanted me to talk to you about growing salvia & here you are asking for help. I used to manage a large family owned nursery and have grown my own veggies and herbs for years. I put the website back up yesterday. www.hippydavessalvia.com/ 
I am going to go forward with my retirement plan. Grin.... Write me an e-mail.
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