testing some leaf

[metathirteen]

im new here and ive never tried salvia before and i just bought some salvia leaves. someone told me u can chew a leaf and put it under ur tongue for a while and ull get some of the effects. is it true? and how long would it take for the effects to start and when does it end?

[Cheveyo]

A ball or cylinder of rolled-up leaves is made. This is called a quid. It is to be chewed. The leaves are chewed slowly--about one chew every 10 seconds. They are kept under your tongue between chews. For half an hour keep the quid that is being chewed, and the juice that forms, in your mouth. If you can, hold it in your mouth without spitting or swallowing. Then, after the half-hour chewing time is over, spit it all out. Have a bowl to spit into, and a towel handy. Salvia juice stains carpets and other fabrics, so be sure the bowl won't tip over.

Quids can be made from either fresh leaves or dried leaves. Those made from dry leaves are less bitter. To make a quid from dried leaves, weigh out 2-8 grams of dried leaves. A gram scale accurate enough for this can be purchased for under $50. If you have no scale, count out 8 to 28 large whole dried leaves. Place the leaves in a small bowl of cool water for 10 minutes. Once the leaves are wet and have been soaking for about 10 minutes, remove the leaves from the water, squeeze the excess water out of them, and ball them up into a quid. Some people skip this soaking step when they are in a hurry, but chewing on brittle dry leaves may be unpleasant. If you wish, you can sweeten the quid with sugar, honey, Stevia extract or an artificial sweetener like Equal®. This will make it less bitter and more pleasant to chew.

If fresh leaves are used instead of dry ones, you will need from 8 to 28 large fresh leaves.

The effect of Salvia quids can probably be increased by first treating your mouth in a special way to increase its ability to absorb salvinorin A. To do this you will need a toothbrush and an alcohol/menthol containing mouthwash such as Cool Mint Listerine®, (or any other brand that contains alcohol and menthol). Gently brush the lining of your mouth, including the tissue under your tongue, and the top surface of your tongue. This removes layers of dead cells normally present. Do not brush hard enough to cause bleeding. Then rinse with the mouthwash for at least 30 seconds. Be sure to get mouthwash everywhere in your mouth, including under your tongue. Then spit out the mouthwash and rinse once with water.

You will experience very little in the first 12 to 15 minutes of chewing. Don't be misled by this. Full effects are usually felt by 30 minutes (the time you spit out the quid). They remain on this level for about 30-60 minutes more, then start to decrease. The whole experience seldom lasts longer than an hour and a half, but this varies.


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[metathirteen]

thanks for the info, thats just what i needed

but what should i start feeling when the effects kick in? will i be able to control myself?
ive seen videos online of people smoking 5x salvia and they basically look retarded and stuff, but this is just leaf not 5x so will i be able to control my actions and just basically have a high or something?

[Arcygenical]

No offense to the people making their videos (actually, tonnes of offense meant...) but they're tools. They're being affected by the placebo effect, take it improperly, and still try to look cool on youtube.

If you quid 10g of fresh leaf (about 3g of dried leaf) you're going to intake about 5mg of Salvinorin A. This is actually a pretty strong trip if you're used to Salvia... But the fact that it's absorbed over 20 minutes pretty much prevents it from destroying you.

It's very possible to get as screwed up as those do on those videos, but please, don't reduce yourself to their levels. I've never seen anyone personally experience more than a visual "vibration" on a good hit of 5x their first time... And I've brought many, many people into the world of salvia.

If you're expecting a high, plain leaf, especially fresh and under your tongue, will be very mild. Maybe a tiny bit of apparent "twist" in your field of vision, an allover body vibration, and a raised heartbeat/sweat production. That's about it.

[metathirteen]

so what do i do about smoking it? id like to try that sometime soon
and how do u take salvia wrong? is it when u take too much at once or something? just wondering lol

[Arcygenical]

There are many ways to take salvia wrong. First is equipment. You need a pipe or a bong, and a jet flame (blue flame) butane lighter. Joints and Bic's are stupid, and won't work.

Then, when you inhale, you want to keep the smoke in as LONG as possible, I keep it in for like 30s then slowly breathe out.

Then, put the pipe and lighter down immediately!

A 180lb male should have about 0.2g of 10x to have an explosive trip, and 0.2g of 5x to have an introductory trip. This is about 6 grains of rice in your smoking device!