cleazenby's grow log

[cleazenby]

]Strain: (2x) Blosser
Lighting: 18/6 Cycle - (2x) 4ft. 32W T8 6500k Fluorescent lights
Grow Media/Soil Mix: 2/3 soil mix 1/3 orchid/perlite mix
Fertilizer: None yet
Temperature Range: 80+
Humidity: 85+
Started From: (2x) Clone, 9 inches high
Start Date: 9-14-08

Other Details/Images: Growing in a Misco 3 Tier Greenhouse 50" tall X 27" wide and using a 4ft. shoplight using Sylvania T8 6500K bulbs on top. Hygrometer and Light timer on 18 hours on and 6 off. I am also using a humidifier to keep humidity above 85%

[cleazenby]

Just updated everything. Still awaiting replies on what I should do in the cultivation section. Thanks for your help!!

[black8teen]

I am not as knowledgeable as many of the people on this site, but something everyone told me was get lots of light to the plants. I would almost suggest getting the plant up closer to the light. It seems like you have everything set up well. How long have you had the two of them? Salvia needs lots of light and preferably a lot of humidity to get over the shipping shock. Plants also take a couple of days to really perk up after being shipped. When they start getting use to their new home they should grow lots for you. Do you have any recent pictures also? Your first post was on August 26th, and a lot may have changed since then, or were the pictures just added today as the "edit"? Sorry lots of questions.

[cleazenby]

I actually just got those two plants today! I set it up beforehand just to make things easier. Yeah I thought u were not supposed to give it light for a few days...hmmm ill try it out. I've had the plants for about 7 hours now haha.

[black8teen]

Just whenever you try something with your salvia try things slowly. Maybe not go to 18 hours of light, and just start of around 6-8 hours of light a day. Work your way to where you want to be. Light just really helps the roots grab hold. Don't change the pots yet. The plants are still very new and suffering from shipping shock. Wait at least one full day and probably more before you re-pot them. Go and read JARG's grow log. He suffered many mishaps along his way and now he clones and makes his own plants.

http://www.salviasource.org/forum/grow-logs/jarg%27s-first-salvia-grow/0/

This should take you there. Look at what he specifically does with lighting, and what he does with his new plants. The feedback he received really helped me out when I just started growing salvia.

[black8teen]

Oh one thing I forgot was make sure the humidity is way up in that tent. Salvia loves water and if she gets enough of it she should perk up for you. Your plants look exactly the same as when I got my 2x blosser's. Humidity and some light will go a LONG way to helping her get stable and growing. Do you have a humidity sensor? If not I bought my cheap little one from walmart for about 7$. It doesn't do to much but it helps you know where your at. Misting the plant can also help get some water into her.

[cleazenby]

I have been trying to keep the humidity above 80 and temp around the same. I need to transplant since the cup its in is pathetic. I did look at the roots and they are really tiny with most of them only being 1/4"and like thread. I'll post pictures tomorrow. I pinched off a few leaves and am left with only the top ones on the severely wilted one. I don't think they are getting enough water.

[JustAnotherRegularGuy]

I just responded to your other thread, but have a look at my system for promoting root growth. You may want to do this to help get enough oxygen and water to the roots with fresh air to the leaves. Roots start popping out very quickly with this system. I have 100% success rate with it.

http://www.salviasource.org/forum/hydroponics/yet-another-2-liter-dwc-system-by-jarg/0/

JARG

[cleazenby]

I think i may buy some cuttings and try your method if these 2 die. They look a little better and I just transfered them to soil for the heck of it. Here is an updated pic on Day 3. The on the left is perking up a bit and I just removed another leaf from the one on the right.

[JustAnotherRegularGuy]

Is that a humidifier under your plants? If so, hot steam isn't good for them and I would suggest not using it. I have seen someone else around here kill a plant in a few days using one near their plant.

JARG

[cleazenby]

oh man....I put hot water in this humidifier to raise the temp and humidity. It got as high as 90F/95%. I bought all the stuff necessary for the rooting thing it only costed $20. I transplanted to soil since it was better than what is was in... Could i possibly still try it or will I damage the small roots by pulling it out? I don't have any root hormone.

[black8teen]

If you transplanted to soil, there is no going back to a hydroponic. The cleansing of the roots will probably kill the plant. As of so far JARG, someone else, and possibly a third who is in the process, will be the only 3 people to successfully clean roots and not have their plants die. It does not work that way. Keep them in the soil. Let them acclimatize, and then let them grow. Soil works just fine for most people. Do you have good lighting on your plants? A little light stimulates growth. Rooting hormone does not really do anything to salvia so don't worry about that. Just let your plants have a chance to get accustomed to their pots. When the new fine haired roots grab into the soil, if the conditions are right, your plants will explode with new growth. You just have to play the waiting game now. Any new changes in how they like the soil?

[JustAnotherRegularGuy]

If you can lower the temperature the relative humidity will be higher. Personally I have found Salvia likes temps in the 65-70 degree range best. I had my plants in the 90 degree range and they all started to suffer from it. Get your temps down, turn off the humidifier, and use a cut off 2 liter that has been misted on the inside to keep the humidity up. I think this will be your best bet right now. If you pull the plants out of the soil it would probably be too much stress on them. You can still use the stuff you bought for rooting when these plants get big enough to make clones. Good luck and keep us posted.

JARG

[cleazenby]

I am still really struggling with my one plant. It just never looks fine and I am seeing everyone's plants grow like weeds where as mine is not so happy. I am watering it with 1/2 solution of 7/7/7 and I have been keeping the light on 18/8. I water about once a week around the rim of the pot and down the stem until I see water coming out of the bottom. I think i need to leave the soil dry out but it never really does. The leaves always stay droopy. Could be they are not liking the soil... Also its been a little over a month and not much growth has happened. I just need help!

[bohmars]

Make sure you are getting plenty of light to them. Mine showed little to no growth until I absolutely bathed them in light.

At any rate, it doesn't look as though it's about to just keel over. Keep it stable and experiment with lighting. Give it some time.

If it still doesn't show growth, I would suggest altering other things and potentially checking for root rot.

I do like what you did early on with the stabilizing stick though. I wish I had done that with my plants, because now one is really crooked and because of it's crookedness, is becoming more crooked and top-heavy. Keep it growing straight if you can.