JD1stTimer's grow log.

[lonelydrunk69]

I definitely believe that music affects plants. I listen to demoscene music (which nobody really listens to here in the USA)...Its like video game music mixed with techno and rock  . They seem to like it as well. I haven't been to Salvia space yet... but from what I have heard the music out there is trippy, so they must love my music.

Some people think that its an absurd idea, that plants can hear music because they don't have ears. But plants have souls and the people that have tripped enough times, or just have the natural ability to go out of body, will say that one can hear things even when one isn't in their body.

[JD1stTimer]

Wow, that leaf that had a broken stem when it arrived is standing out horizontal this morning, and the break is healed with a good callus over it.   You can see in all the pics that it was hanging down parallel to the stem. She seems to be responding better than ever!  I guess she just had one too many leaves before her tumble, or else she was "scared straight" (For anyone who's not American, it's a program for schoolchildren in the U.S. to keep them away from crime; they talk to car thieves and drug dealers about life in prison).  Has anyone else seen this kind of renewed vigor after a shock? Sea Mac if you're reading, how did those sally trees that got hit by the storm fare afterwards?

[JD1stTimer]

I haven't noticed any music in salviaspace.  If there has been music it has come from music I had playing at the time.  When I don't have music playing, I don't hear any music.  Just whispers and maybe animal-type sounds.

[MstryShovel]

pythagoras, i think used to promote the idea of musical healing along with colors and herbs created a triune of medications. that when together they would really heal anyone completely. as the soundwaves pass through someone they vibrate them and different tones he said produced different effects, from hightening mood to clearing sinuses. I think it can deffinately stimulate them(the plants) even if its just to give stimulation to the air so that they grow stronger (like wind ect).   on a more spiritual side though it will affect the energy of your room, and all plants respond to the energy of thier environment.

[JD1stTimer]

Nice... I never thought of using colors as medicine... I wonder if any studies have been done about that... it would be very good if it worked.

[slackjaw]

There is a term for this, biodynamism.

There is also this:
http://www.raven1.net/seclife.htm

the secret life of plants.

The 50/50 ratio for roots vs vegetation is correct.

[JD1stTimer]

WOW, it reminds me of something I didn't mention because I thought it was random coincidence or just my imagination... but if you look through my growlog and you see where Sally really started wilting a lot quicker than normal, it happened at a time when I had (very wishy-washily, but I really meant it at the time) decided that I wouldn't use Salvia anymore, at least not the potent extracts... Now I wonder if she didn't sense some animosity coming from me...  once I decided that it was MY problem that gave me a frightening journey, and not a problem with salvia, that's when she really straightened up like an arrow.  Weird....

[lonelydrunk69]

"it happened at a time when I had (very wishy-washily, but I really meant it at the time) decided that I wouldn't use Salvia anymore, at least not the potent extracts..."

I still haven't used salvia extracts and I don't plan to anytime soon. I my opinion, salvia extracts are an artificial byproduct and aren't really true to nature's intention, so I can't see how that would offend Sally in any way...

On a slightly relevant note, I trip on shrooms frequently and have found that fungi, plants, and trees are all sentient beings capable of telepathic communication, (this is where I derive my theory that music affects them).

Sorry for derailing your grow log 

[MstryShovel]

that link is awesome, im thinking of hitting up my local bookstore for the secret life of plants.  very interesting stuff, at least to me.

oh yeah, edit: something simmilar has happened to me, I used to go up to my plants the salvia especialy got this attention, and say to her in my mind, oh yes! these stmes are growing great, i cant wait to cut you up and turn you into cuttings! at this she hardly grew. and almost immediatlye appon taking a cutting from her, it would die (even in a tent and ect),  but now (about a montha ago) i started thinking twards them no no im going to let you grow big and strong before YOU give ME a cutting,  at which she is pleased immencely and has grown like gangbusters

[JD1stTimer]

Hmm, I guess I'll keep it in mind when I'm thinking about taking cuttings.  I kinda figured she doesn't mind giving up cuttings, the way she's so prone to falling over and rooting her own branches for ya...  and lonelydrunk, I agree with you to a degree, but at the less concentrated extracts I have just gotten the most brief glimpses of the other realm... I'm not a hardhead, but I am a large guy.  Anyway, I meant it as though maybe she mistook my unhappiness as being against salvia in general, not really associating it with the particular package I bought.I would like to try shrooms sometime, but I don't know where I can get them, and they're definitely illegal here.  One might just have to mount some spores on a wet slide and whoops-a-daisy, spill rye flour all over one's slide! Oh noes! There's a mycelial web starting to grow! Aiieee!

[JD1stTimer]

Well, it's been a while since I've given a progress report, because there hasn't been too much to report.  I have been acclimating Sally to the humidity in the house, today she was scheduled for five hours of fresh air time, but I forgot about her  and gave her five hours and 50 minutes of fresh air.

She looks to be no worse for the wear, her leaves were a tad droopy, but they perked up within just a few minutes of putting a bag full of cool mist over her head.  That's the fastest recovery I've seen yet.

One leaf on the bottom node was bruised on the petiole when she took her fall, and I didn't notice until two days ago.  That leaf wilts much worse than the others when I take the tent off, and now it has a black section growing towards the midrib.  It's almost at the midrib now.  Yesterday I saw what looked like an abscission zone - a white line around the base of the petiole.  Now that line has turned brown.  Should I just go ahead and cut this leaf off to get the dead material out of my pot, or should I wait for Sally to drop it naturally?  I'm personally rather in favor of doing it naturally, but having a tent is definitely not natural either, and the high moisture could be what tips the scales in favor of using my scissors.  Decisions, decisions. Abscissions, abscissions. *edit* Oh, and should I stay with the original schedule for tomorrow and give her six hours of fresh air even though she almost got six today, or go ahead and skip a day and give her seven hours?  If I don't hear back I'll just stick with the regularly scheduled programming, and wait for that bottom leaf to drop on its own. */edit*

*update* Its been six hours and she hasn't drooped even one little bit except for the aforementioned damaged leaf.  I think in the future I will not have a set timing, but just replace the tent when she has drooped to a certain extent, but not for a shorter time than the previous day.  If this is a bad idea please let me know. *update*

*another update* It's been 14 hours with her tent off and she has no signs of wilting!!! That one droopy leaf I nudged, and I saw that it was just barely attached by one tiny fiber, so I went ahead and pulled it off.  I'm surprised she didn't drop it, it's been practically detached for more than a whole week!  Anyway, I wonder if she's almost finished acclimating... that would be great!  and surprising considered she took that tumble.  Maybe it's because I give her good vibrations by drumming on the table with my palms every day. I'm still gonna put the tent on when I go to bed though, in case the heat runs a lot tonight. */another update*

[JD1stTimer]

I would have modified this post but it doesn't give any bump which I think I need.. I don't have any new pics because nothing has changed visibly in this time except the loss of that leaf I already mentioned.

The reason I'm posting this is because it bothered me that I'm not seeing any development whatsoever so I took a bamboo skewer and dug a little trench about one inch long, one to two inches deep about an inch from Sally's stem to see if there were any roots, (I know, they way the cat got killed and all that.. I just couldn't help myself) and I could only find light, fluffy soil with no roots in it... do you think they're probably there, just not an inch long yet?

Also when I touch her she seems very easy to sway back and forth, like she's not anchored yet.... :/  her color still looks good and I don't see any brown on the stem except right at the soil line, but it looks like the same texture as healthy cuticle and the soil is light and airy, so I think it's just lack of pigment from being in the dark.

Oh, and I have had her humidity tent off all night long with the heat going and everything and she stays totally unwilted.  I actually don't know if that's good or bad.. is she simply accustomed to the dry air, or is her metabolism stopped so she's not transpiring?  Yeah, I AM a nervous nelly...  but if you have anything reassuring I would appreciate it, or if it sounds like a problem please let me know that too...

[JD1stTimer]

Finally an update with content!!  The topmost leaf bud is finally becoming recognizable as a leaf.   I guess she's doing just fine, and it's winter dormancy that is making her so slow.  This leaf is currently about 1.5 mm long I think.  This is the only visible development I am seeing.  I haven't used the humidity tent nor misted her since the last post where I said the tent was off all night.  That was... the 13th of Feb.  She hasn't been watered since I put her in the four-gallon pot at the beginning of February.  Although four gallons of soil can hold a lot of water, it still surprises me. 


Ain't it ky00te!

[kyetripper36]

my moms grows a slavia plant breed it just grows outside in the summer here in oregon how come  the sally plants that contain salvinorum a  need all this special care and ares doesnt

[Arcygenical]

my moms grows a slavia plant breed it just grows outside in the summer here in oregon how come  the sally plants that contain salvinorum a  need all this special care and ares doesnt

Salvia is a large genus of plants. Each member of the salvia family has it's own requirement for light/heat/humidity etc. Many have their own uses. Divinorum, obviously for it's psychoactive properties, Dorrii for it's stimulant and anti-inflammatory properties, etc.

S. Divinorum, while part of the salvia (sage) family, grows primarily in the jungle underbrush. Ergo, it requires the jungle-like condition's it's accustomed to. However, Salvia can be trained to grow in almost any situation, given proper care and time to adjust.