How To Make Salvia Divinorum Extract

[JustAnotherRegularGuy]

Well here is the main problem with trying to do that. You would have a bunch of plain leaf mixed with some 50x leaf. Just by mixing the leaf together doesn't mean you are changing the multiplier really. You still have plain leaf and 50x leaf mixed together in one batch. It would be very difficult to get a true "10x" hit from that. Using your mix in a bowl, some hits might be the equivalent of 1x to 5x and others may get closer to 20x or 30x depending on how much of the 50x got burned up in that hit. To truly change the multiplier you would have to pull the Salvinorin A out of the 50x leaf and then put it back into more of your plain leaf to dilute it down to 10x.

There is another problem however. If you are not measuring out the Salvinorin A then you are making unstandardized extract which can vary in strength and be all over the map for potency. Have a look at these two posts:

http://www.salviasource.org/forum/experiencing-salvia/reliability-of-extract-potency-labels/0/

http://www.salviasource.org/forum/research/hplc-quantification-of-salvinorin-a-from-tissues-of-salvia-divinorum/0/

As you can see each plant can also vary greatly in the potency of Salvinorin A in the leaves and the unstandardized extracts are usually not what they actually claim to be. This is probably why your friend didn't feel much from the Purple Sticky 20x. It's also why unstandardized extracts can vary greatly in the amount of Salvinorin A per gram of leaf. Remember too that Salvinorin A degrades in UV light so if these packages are not light proof that will also diminish the potency if they are stored where light can get to them.

Personally your best bet is to always buy standardized extract or get a very accurate scale and make your own.

JARG

[djcool837]

i have some questions on salvia i have one ounce what are my options what are the best extract to make and how can i do it with less the  100g

[osiris]

can you use a very pure extraction sublingually

[|if3]

can you use a very pure extraction sublingually

You sure can.

Happy Quidding,
James

[PackRat]

Could kerosene or paraffin oil be used in the place of naphtha?

[terminator911]

can you use a very pure extraction sublingually

You sure can.

Happy Quidding,
James

according to many sites i have seen (including some articles by D. Siebert himself) you do not ever want to mess with the pure crystals. salvinorin is effective at VERY small doses (like a few micrograms which are one millionth of a gram) so it is not recommended you take it straight. see here at the very bottom: http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_extraction4.shtml

i have read somewhere that the waxy stuff from before the naptha wash but after the solvent evaporates off can be taken sublingually.

[|if3]

can you use a very pure extraction sublingually

You sure can.

Happy Quidding,
James

according to many sites i have seen (including some articles by D. Siebert himself) you do not ever want to mess with the pure crystals. salvinorin is effective at VERY small doses (like a few micrograms which are one millionth of a gram) so it is not recommended you take it straight. see here at the very bottom: http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_extraction4.shtml

i have read somewhere that the waxy stuff from before the naptha wash but after the solvent evaporates off can be taken sublingually.

Yeah, the effective dosage for PURE salvinorin A is something like 300 micrograms, but so far, I haven't noticed anyone make a pure extract, except for Siebert?
And Assuming that we don't have the resources, people could use 60x sublingually rather than smoking it to get a less of an effect.

Good Luck,
James

[kvream]

As simple as it sounds, you have about 16 hours in which to twiddle your thumbs, watch some paint dry, or whatever you feel like. During this time, don't even think about touching your extraction, and make sure it's in a dark place. Light has a nasty habit of destroying salvinorin-a in solution. The purpose of this step is to let any sediment such as tannins fall out of the leaf which are hard to extract later on.

After the 16 or so hours are up, you may pour off the remaining liquid into the original saucepan, provided you emptied out the powdered leaf earlier.

What's the point of this step?  If the tannins/tars fall out of this step how do we isolate/remove them from the solution?  You say to "pour off the remaining liquid into the original saucepan, provided you emptied out the powdered leaf earlier" but doesn't this liquid contain the tannins/tars?  Doesn't make sense to me.

When the evaporation is complete, you should be left with a load of black gunk on the inside of your container. This is as far as most people get with their extractions and is the reason why the end result is a black sticky mess. That's ok for about 5x or 6x extracts, but any stronger than that and it becomes unsmokable.

Isn't the black gunk the tannins/tars?  If so then they weren't removed in the previous step and so what's the point of the 16 hour waiting period?

When your black gunk is completely dry, you can scrape it out of your container and place it into a tall, narrow container. To this, add 50ml or so of naphtha. The naphtha dissolves the green/black waxes but leaves behind the salvinorin-a. After you add the first lot of naphtha, allow the container 30 minutes or so to settle, then pipette off two thirds of the naphtha and discard it. Repeat this process at LEAST 5 more times until your salvinorin-a is no longer a black colour. If you keep washing with naphtha, it will eventually turn white, however that kind of purity isn't necessary for making 10x extract. If you were making something like 40x or 60x (not recommended), then the higher the purity, the better.

After the last naphtha wash, remove two thirds one last time and this time, allow the naphtha to evaporate off, leaving you with relatively pure salvinorin-a. DO NOT try and smoke/ingest this, as even a tenth of a milligram can be too much for some people.

Again, it's fine that the naphtha dissolves the tannins/tars/waxes but how are we separating them from the salvinorin-A?  If we are piping out the solution aren't we losing the s-A as well?  If not, why not?

[solar]

Again, it's fine that the naphtha dissolves the tannins/tars/waxes but how are we separating them from the salvinorin-A?  If we are piping out the solution aren't we losing the s-A as well?  If not, why not?

I think that because the salvinorin isn't soluble in naptha it would settle to the bottom of the tube, so as long as you piped from the top of the solution, none of it should be lost.

Does anyone know if any other chemicals from the acetone part are not dissolved in the naptha and would be left with the salvinorin? or is it pretty much pure?

[the twist]

  what is ipa allso were do i get my hands on sum naptha ?

[drift]

what is ipa allso were do i get my hands on sum naptha ?

All the hardware stores near me carry it, I found some at home depot.

[loganmillison]

i'm sorry if this was already asked but like i want to se if i'm doing the right math


if i took 100 grams of leaf and  put in, suppose 95 grams and put it on 5 grams of leaf, that would get me 20x?
opposed to making it with 90 grams and putting the salvinorin from that onto 10 grams of leaf and getting a 10x
or hypothetically speaking....
i make 99 grams worth of leaf and put it on 1 gram, that would be 100x?

iuno, i just was wondering if i'm doing the right math
cause i usually am not the best mathematician and make simple mistakes a LOT

[Dr._Green_Thumb]

This is amazing thanks for your time making this!!

[nickelz34]

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[the_catch_22]

how did the mazatecs make it back in the day b4 all this crazy stuff? i'm not a chemist, i just like to fly, ya dig? whats a real simple way to take leaf and make it lil' better?

thanx 4 your time,
the catch.