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Arcygenical
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #15 on:
November 29, 2007, 02:43:31 pm »
Quote from: MstryShovel on November 29, 2007, 02:41:44 am
so by the naptha washes and tall glass I recon you mean you should go for ease of removal, a tall skinny glss beain easyer to separate the plant matter from the SA after it has condenced?
Yep, that's exactly what you want
Small containers will make it impossible to dropper off the top effectively.
I think thats ok, cause when my acetone arived i ran around snatching up all the ronsonol i could.... lets just say ive got a good litre or so of the stuff, oh well, stock for the next batch i guess.
I use a 344ml container for every ~150g of leaf material
Ive begun and almost finished evaporating the nauseous concoction. and will hopefully begin the naptha washes tonight.(just checked) and yup it just finished. gunna add the naptha, swish it around. ect. as a point of intrest, the method of hot water around the evaporating chamber is gold, it sped up my reaction time by double or so I'd say. keep you updated.
I'd use a good metal fork (yep, I said fork :p) to really stir the solution up in the naphtha. You really want to give her a good beating. A tip though, is to rinse the fork in naphtha after you stir it up everytime, of course letting the rinsing naphtha drip into your container. This frees up any Salvinorin A stuck to the fork
Yep, you can evaporate a good liter of ACS naptha in a few minutes in hot water, and a good liter of ACS Acetone in about an hour. Drugstore/Hardware store brands taking longer.
also all my visuals(things) look almost exactly as pictured in arch's demo pics, i dont wanna sacrifice SA for pictures so ill take pictures later i guess. and fill in the details.
Aha, always good to sacrifice pics for yield.
I think I'm going to bid on a kilo of salvia tonight...
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MstryShovel
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #16 on:
December 07, 2007, 04:26:35 am »
Ok so I did it, and it works
both the process and the extract itself heh
when doing the naptha washes a tall, skinny glass is essential, I used a mason-jar, like from pasta and whatnot, and ended up using 3x the amount of naptha that i could have gotten away with, not to mention the pain of doing the 2 washes that i actualy did. in the end it was a light to medium green powder-ish substance that arch, imagines to be between 50-70% pure salvatorin A, and I'd belive it after trying. happy hunting guys, its actualy quite an easy process, just time consuming (took me 4 days total) and once you get all the non-consumables (fan, dishes, drains) ect its quite easy and straightforward. Just keep it out of the light i worked every step off of ambient computer light, not very easy! hah
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Arcygenical
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #17 on:
December 07, 2007, 12:42:01 pm »
Glad to know it worked out for you
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I'm thinking of picking up a kilo of leaf and making a gram or two of crystals.
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MstryShovel
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #18 on:
December 07, 2007, 02:18:35 pm »
har! that would be great. hah i cant wait myself till i become lucrid enough to run another experiment.
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JD1stTimer
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #19 on:
February 09, 2008, 12:13:14 am »
I'm curious why you would want to mix your purified salvinorin with crumbled leaves which are apparently almost plain cellulose fiber... does this leaf still taste and smell like salvia? Why not just mix with shredded rolling papers?
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Arcygenical
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #20 on:
February 09, 2008, 07:28:51 pm »
Quote from: JD1stTimer on February 09, 2008, 12:13:14 am
I'm curious why you would want to mix your purified salvinorin with crumbled leaves which are apparently almost plain cellulose fiber... does this leaf still taste and smell like salvia? Why not just mix with shredded rolling papers?
Hmm, mainly out of principal really... I feel it's more true to the original herb. Salvinorin smells or tastes nothing like the original plant (but don't get me wrong, it smells and tastes just as bad as the original plant, just different :p). I've precipitated it onto flavored tobacco before, and that was quite nice too.
If you purify the leaf like I did in the latter part of the guide, the leaf doesn't have any smell at all. When you burn it, it tastes like regular salvia leaves, but until then it's totally unnoticeable.
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JD1stTimer
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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February 09, 2008, 11:43:38 pm »
Ahhh, makes sense. I guess there's also the legal issue that you can label it 100% salvia, no additives/adulterants. I've always enjoyed the taste of salvia myself. Does anyone else, or is there some flavoring added to SalviaZone products? They say it's nothing but pure fortified salvia leaf.
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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February 10, 2008, 12:11:39 am »
Quote from: JD1stTimer on February 09, 2008, 11:43:38 pm
Ahhh, makes sense. I guess there's also the legal issue that you can label it 100% salvia, no additives/adulterants. I've always enjoyed the taste of salvia myself. Does anyone else, or is there some flavoring added to SalviaZone products? They say it's nothing but pure fortified salvia leaf.
Lots of people like the taste, but I can't stand it. :d
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Gorlax
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #23 on:
February 12, 2008, 06:19:28 pm »
This is a great guide. When my plant gets mature and I can harvest the ammount of Salvia leaves needed im definately doing this. Now is their any guide on lacing salvia leaves with the salvinorin A.
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JD1stTimer
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #24 on:
February 12, 2008, 07:30:34 pm »
Yeah, it's the last section of the guide.
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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February 13, 2008, 05:07:25 am »
Quote from: Gorlax on February 12, 2008, 06:19:28 pm
This is a great guide. When my plant gets mature and I can harvest the ammount of Salvia leaves needed im definately doing this. Now is their any guide on lacing salvia leaves with the salvinorin A.
Of course
. The last section. When you're left with a few milligrams of crude salvinorin at the end of the purification step, then dissolve this into acetone, and add in the amount of leaf you need to fortify, based upon the strength you want, and let the acetone dissolve down.
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Minney
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #26 on:
February 21, 2008, 11:24:57 pm »
i am pretty new to salvia and i just ordered my first plant and it is on its way so i thought i would join this site to learn more about it. so what is a good way to dry the leaf? and is acetone completely safe to use in this extraction method?
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Arcygenical
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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February 22, 2008, 08:30:39 pm »
Quote from: Minney on February 21, 2008, 11:24:57 pm
i am pretty new to salvia and i just ordered my first plant and it is on its way so i thought i would join this site to learn more about it. so what is a good way to dry the leaf? and is acetone completely safe to use in this extraction method?
Best way to let the leaves dry, would be to snip them up into little strips (1" wide, by as long as the leaf is) and put them on a plate, in open air. This is the tobacco method.
As for the acetone... It's only as safe as the quality of the acetone you use. Using ACS grade acetone, you're safe from it's effects after it's evaporated (When it is evaporating, it can be explosive and asphyxiating, so good ventilation is a requirement) as it's a pure chemical. Using hardware store quality acetone is usually good, but don't you dare think about using nailpolish remover :p
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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Reply #28 on:
February 26, 2008, 04:55:14 pm »
the leaves have to be dried out before extracting, right?
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Re: The Penultimate Salvinorin A Extraction Guide.
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February 26, 2008, 05:21:36 pm »
It all depends on whether water is miscible with acetone... but I think yes, if anything just to give you less bulk of material to process. Plus even if water doesn't mix with acetone, you still have to separate the two. Salvinorin floating on water like talc, anyone? I think things would work out terribly, even if it's technically doable.
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