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hazyshaman
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June 03, 2008, 10:15:48 pm »
I just thought I'd shed some light on opiate alterantives. I'll start off revealing my opiate history. My history with opiates began when I was 16. I had gotten burned from a bathroom fire which put me in the Intensive Care Unit for 10 days, and 34 days total in the hospital. During this time in the hospital I was introduced to I.V. Morphine in large doses. I had never before used any hardcore opiate before this time. As soon as I was introduced to morphine my world changed. I have never felt more euphoric off of any substance than I did off of morphine. Once, the nurses forgot to meter how much I had been given and gave me two heavy doses back-to-back within 15 minutes. I was so out of it I was hallucinating and calling familly members on the phone telling them that airplanes were flying through the hospital and that they should call the hospital to let them know! After my time in the hospital, I was sent home with a presription for Norco 10/325 which did absolutely nothing for me. Desperate and in pain, I contacted a close friend of mine who happened to work in a hospital pharmacy and obtained some I.V. morphine to continue this euphoric habbit. This cycle continued for a whole year before I realised that this was affecting my life in a negative way. I began to wean myself off and eventually quit. I have not used morphine in 5 years and never will again. I have had prescriptions for narcotic painkillers for legitamite uses since then. Occasionally I would partake in the smoking of raw opium but have not for 1.5 years. So with this background I consider myself an experienced opiate user.
Recently, I came across a legal herb that grows wild in my state, California Poppy. I thought to myself "bullsh**, this can't be any kind of alternative to opium, not even close!"
Out of curiousity I bought some 25x California poppy resin from shamanshop.net. When this stuff arrived I ripped open the package to reveal a black tarry substance that reminds me alot of cannabis pipe resin. Eager to try it, I brought out a brand new clean hash pipe(the ones with the bulb and stem with a small hole in the top of the bulb) that is commonly used to smoke meth out of. As a side note, I never have nor ever will use meth. I dropped a few pieces of this tarry substance through the hole, a quantity equal to 4-5 grains of rice. Heating up the bulb I noticed a very sweet smell coming from the pipe and I began to inhale. Upon finishing the bowl I began to feel a slight head change which climbed to a full on euphoria that I can only describe as morphine-like. I had low expectations of this herb and it completely blew my mind instantly becomming one of my favorite legal herbs. I'm not exagerating on the effects, it produced very similar feelings to that of morphine, not quite as strong but suitable as an alternative. I highly recommend this herb to anyone looking for a nice sedative high that will allow you to just relax regardless of whats going on in your life. Do not take it in the middle of the day as it WILL put you to sleep, it is very narcotic and I cannot believe this has not been outlawed. Please use this herb in a safe manner and keep it's effects a secret to ethno-enthusiasts like ourslelves. Do NOT drive after use please. This is not placebo people so do not underestimate it's effects.
Peace.
HS
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Cheveyo
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 03, 2008, 10:33:58 pm »
I made poppy seed tea once, that blew my mind, I went for a walk to the park.
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hazyshaman
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June 04, 2008, 03:39:29 am »
I have heard of poppy seed tea but have never done it. I heard you have to get the poppy seeds which have not been washed. Where did you get your seeds for this experience?
Most storebought poppy seeds are the smooth black looking seeds which have already been washed.
I am interested in trying this poppy seed tea. You should seriously look into that california poppy resin man, I'm not kidding I love that stuff!
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Cheveyo
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June 04, 2008, 07:59:33 am »
a friend of mine ordered them off ebay, we chopped them up and let them sit in water for about 2 hours, stirring them every so often. Then we filtered out the seeds and such with a coffee filter and drank up!
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hazyshaman
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June 04, 2008, 06:29:09 pm »
What was your dose with the poppy seeds? Was it a mild or relatively strong experience? I am interested in this tea. I don't want to overdo it with this as I know what can happen with morphine overdose.
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Cheveyo
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June 05, 2008, 03:59:12 pm »
First thing you will need is poppy seeds preferably from bulk stores (Bulk Barn, etc) you will also need water and a little lemon juice (the little squeeze bottles shaped like lemons work well). As for the amount I would start out at around 500 - 700 grams. But you can go lower as its better to be safe then sorry. Get a pot or a bowl or something put the poppy seeds in the pot and heat up around two liters of water and then simply add the water to the poppy seeds and stir. Then add the whole thing of lemone juice. Let it sit for about 3 minutes or so and stir occasionally.
The hardest part to this is straining it. I use a funnel with a t-shirt connected to a bottle opening. Make sure the bottle is big enough to hold it all. After you have poured it all through make sure to squeeze the t-shirt really well to get out all of the tea. Thats about it. Now for the experience.
The effects begin probabely after half a liter or so is drank. Remember this can change also with the amount of seeds used. Thats what I experieced with 1200 grams so it might be different if you're using a lower dose. I know when it is kicking in when my shoulders feel heavy. It slowly gets stronger and stronger, a technique I use is to have one glass then wait half an hour to an hour and drink some more until I think I have had enough. You may not have to do this if your taking a very low dose. One word that could sum up the experience is basically feeling really content. Basically feeling focused on what ever you are doing and not giving a crap about anything else. I can still walk around fine while on this.
One thing I would like to mention though about poppy seed tea is to be careful as the potency of the seeds vary from store to store. Someone has recently died from drinking too much of this too fast. He actually overdosed on it. So keep that in mind and hopefully that will make you be more careful with this as you have to be with a lot of other drugs.
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hazyshaman
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 05, 2008, 11:29:18 pm »
Right on man, thanks for the recipe. I will try this in the future as it seems like a worthwhile experiment. I just bought another gram of that California Poppy 25x resin and some lactuca virosa resin to see if that's any good. I have heard mixed things about lettuce opium, some really good reports and some not so good. I believe everything effects people in different ways, just like some people I know can't trip off of 10x salvia. Brain chemistry must have more or less serotonin and dopamine levels. I will be a regular buyer of that C. Poppy resin, it just makes me feel so good and yet I have never had a "need" for it, just a "want". No addiction, but it can be habbit forming with regular use as with anything that feels that good. It mixes really well on top of weed as one would use hash. Mixed with MJ it has caused me to hallucinate pretty heavily so watch out when you mix the two.
How much does 2lbs of poppy seeds cost? If I have enough I just may buy them today. This weekend I am doing my Kratom experiment, I am thinking about six grams for a first time. I want the sedative effects, not stimulation. I bought an ounce from the sagewisdom site as I trust Daniel S. with my life. It is a little pricier than all the other sites I have been on, but it is probably higher quality or stronger mitragynine content.
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Madmax
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 06, 2008, 08:08:01 pm »
Personally, I prefer habits that I can afford, but if you must delve into the poppy then search common seed catalogs. Many of them contain P. Somniferum that you can grow at home, and the local constabulary can't recognize them because cultivation here isn't as common as it is in Afghanistan. May God have mercy on your souls if you take this advice, I have better things to do with my time.
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hazyshaman
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June 06, 2008, 09:49:31 pm »
I had an idea today that really seems like it will work. My idea is to take a whole bunch of poppy seeds and soak them in 99% isopropyl alcohol for one day, strain them into a container and let the remaining solution evaporate till a tarry substance is left. This substance can be weighed out properly and either smoked in a hash pipe or encapsulated and taken orally. What do you guys think? Does this sound like it will work?
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hazyshaman
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 07, 2008, 02:32:59 pm »
I just had my Kratom experience last night. All I can say is, "this is the plant I have been looking for all my life". I cannot explain what I felt, it just MUST be felt. It brought me back to my morphine days, omg I couldn't believe it. I had a strong entire body orgasm for 2 whole hours which tapered off for another two hours. I just layed there completely amazed at this gift from God. Listening to reggae music was beautiful. It was the kind of high that just has no equal, that is besides opiates. I cannot stress enough how important it is to hold the utmost respect for this plant. I pray to God that this never becomes illegal in the U.S.
I have set strict guidelines for the use of Kratom. I will ONLY use kratom once a week on the weekend's.
I started brewing 6 grams of the tea around 10:00PM, around 10:25 I started drinking the tea. The taste was quite nice, not bitter as some have reported. It began kicking in around 10:40 which began to feel like a 20 mg hydrocodone buzz. This buzz was pleasant but not as intense as I prefer. Around 11:15 I started feeling it peaking and I realised that it was far from over! It had climbed to a level EQUAL to that of a medical morphine dose. I layed there unable to speak, just in awe at the sheer power of this herb. I felt no differences between morphine and Kratom other than Kratom feels cleaner, more natural. Around 12:45 I began to come down very slowly and gently. The euphoria that was felt last night was WAAAYYY beyond what I could have ever hoped for. During the peak, it felt so good that I literally cried tears of joy hoping that this feeling never ends.
Please, if you choose to use this herb, treat it with the respect that it deserves and take extra precaution not to let the man catch onto this magical plant and outlaw it.
Peace
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 08, 2008, 12:59:58 am »
It is already on the stupid DEA's substances of concern list. If they ban SD
, the man is likely to go after this one next.
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 08, 2008, 08:30:23 pm »
at 25$ a gram, how many experiences does one get with this resin? thats some dough if its only one or two
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hazyshaman
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June 08, 2008, 09:07:42 pm »
I have successfuly dosed 5-6 times with the resin, of course it was used as an additive on top of my favorite herb.
By itself it is only moderately active giving a good feeling of well being and relaxation. But don't expect to be blasted like weed or anything. It's very gentle which is why I like it. I tried Lactuca Virosa the other day and I found that it is useless, extremely mild(possibly placebo) effect. Not worth the time or money. I wish I had alot of money, I would buy a sh**load of kratom if I could. I have found that it is my alltime favorite herb of ANY kind, bar none. It does not give me that foggy retarded feeling that MJ gives me, just makes me feel awesome and productive.
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 09, 2008, 12:01:10 am »
Quote from: hazyshaman on June 04, 2008, 03:39:29 am
I have heard of poppy seed tea but have never done it. I heard you have to get the poppy seeds which have not been washed. Where did you get your seeds for this experience?
Most storebought poppy seeds are the smooth black looking seeds which have already been washed.
I am interested in trying this poppy seed tea. You should seriously look into that california poppy resin man, I'm not kidding I love that stuff!
Ironically, the cheaper poppy seeds are the least likely to be thoroughly washed and baked. In other words, those gourmet type seeds that cost about $5/oz are the least potent, or are even totally worthless as a tea.
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Re: Alt to opium...
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June 09, 2008, 04:58:10 am »
Quote from: DrYRHead on June 08, 2008, 12:59:58 am
It is already on the stupid DEA's substances of concern list. If they ban SD
, the man is likely to go after this one next.
Yeah, I'm quite surprised it isn't already banned. I think its because it has managed to stay under the radar for the most part. The media hasnt gotten to it yet...
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