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crazykid2323
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Alternatives
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June 15, 2008, 02:43:21 pm »
Finding certain drug use and effects somewhat cunning, I've really gotten into learning about different effects and what actually is happening. Since many of these drugs are illegal, what about alternatives? I'm looking for alternatives to marijuana, LSD, and Psilocybin Mushrooms. Does anyone have any good ones or reviews? I live in New York so it must be legal to have in possesion.
I have found a few here, let's see what you think.
http://www.elegalhighs.com/Druids-Fantasy-legal-highs.html
http://www.elegalhighs.com/Flyingdragons.html
Plus many of these,
http://www.herbalhighs.com/Items/Legal_Highs/BZP_Free_Legal_Highs/BZP_Free_Legal_Highs_List.aspx
The herbal highs website has many legal alternatives to shrooms and ecstacy and stuff, if you look there is a product called "shrooms" which is illegal to have in the US, but I'm looking for something like that, any reccomendations?
Also, how can vendors sell mushroom growing kits with psilocybe spores... Is this legal? It may just be something I would look into, they have a bunch of different strains, It could make you trip right?
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plur
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Re: Alternatives
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June 15, 2008, 11:16:12 pm »
*well there a lot acully there moring gorly seed the contane the contan lsa
*colous(sp?) is mild but with high enofe dose it can get some where in that ball park
the really is no subsatue for pot it just too much in it own catergory
*dxm but it really hard on ones body and most dont like the effcts but some fall in love with it
*theres always salvia (lol)
there benzadrex inhalers the closist thing to mdma i have ever fond over the conter but also hard on one body
and some be poeple cant raelly hanld the some of the side effects from it (vomiting and a hard come down)
*(word of cution everthing i listed here should be given the respect it desever most listed here wont be much fun
if you go into the exspecec looking for a cheap easy high most of them a usefull shaman tools i find that most who use phycelldelicks for resons such as "cool look at all the prety colors" and "i want to trip balls" generlly are disapointed with experce and ted to have bad trip )
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Re: Alternatives
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June 16, 2008, 01:05:37 am »
Benzadrex is actually an analog of meth more then MDMA.
DXM has an effect similar to PCP or Ketamine, but the dose needed is huge.
Both of those are, indeed, hard on the body too. Just like he said above.
There is a product called Spice Gold which one had found come close to MJ.
SD is still legal in some places, but 4 more states just passed bills to ban it.
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crazykid2323
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Re: Alternatives
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June 16, 2008, 12:04:20 pm »
So is Druids Fantasy or Flying Dragon ok to take?
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plur
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June 17, 2008, 02:07:38 am »
cemactly mdma and meth simler benzdrex is has a slight phycadelic glow to it more speilsicly i think of it as a mix beteen ampetine and mdma and dxm although most closly related to ketamen it does have a strong phadeli feel
expely when taken in high does the lower does are more ketamene like the high does are simler to acid in one or to ways it in my opion it what i would imagen the to mixed might be like and i am pretty sure the dont sell spice in the us
i live on long island and there like a millon head shopes here that sell every thing form salvia to nitous to red dawn and pretty much every legal "drug" i know of ... if it works as well as your say it does and was sold in the us or at lest ny state i in would have see it(alot places have the other fake pot stuff i have i have look for it ) and just so you know salvias its legal in ny and cool kid where about are you in ny
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crazykid2323
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Re: Alternatives
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June 17, 2008, 12:03:13 pm »
About forty minutes north of albany
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Arcygenical
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Re: Alternatives
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June 18, 2008, 05:40:56 pm »
I've never found a herbal high that actually worked. I guess the gram of spice gold I got was *alright* but it produced a much clearer buzz than marijuana would, and would never get me above a "basline" pot high...
There are very few legal analogs... Your best bet for a legal hallucinogen other than Salvia would be 2C-i... Not as nice as 2C-b, but it will produce a fairly heady and disorienting buzz... 2C-E is another legal phenethylamine that supposedly produces the same effects as 2c-i, but more visual than mental.
Or, you can make many chemicals yourself, with legal chemicals, and keep them hidden well...
The reason P. spores are legal, is because they contain no active chemical... If it can be proven you intend to grow with them, however, you can be prosecuted... Spores are illegal in 2 states, California being one.
LSA is easy to obtain, and works really well.
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Re: Alternatives
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June 22, 2008, 12:38:36 am »
As I recall 2C-B was banned, and all the other 2Cs are analogs of it. Thus, if the law wanted to convict someone under the analog act for possession of them, they very well would try to do that. Thus, 2Cs are not really legal per se.
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