HBWR LSA

[SexyMattTheCat]

I'm going on a heavy, 12 seep LSA tripp tomorrow to try to clear my head, ill fast the whole day before. Anyone have any experience with lsa?

[hazyshaman]

LSA is extremely powerful when taken the right way. Make sure you use at least 200-300 seeds for the morning glory variety, or 15-18 seeds for Hawaiin Baby Woodrose. Grind them in a coffee grinder(electric) and drop the powder in your mouth all at once and wash it down with water. My trip on LSA was actually the intensity of 3 hits of acid. Have a great trip and be safe!

[DrYRHead]

Beware that HBWR seeds can cause vomiting as bad a Ayahuasca tea can. Crystallized ginger root(candies ginger) can help a bit. Some out there have, also, found that a cold water herb tea made from the tea caused much less nausea and vomiting that the powder strait up.
 
There is some controversy as to what in these seeds actually causes the vomiting. Some in the past claimed it was the fuzz on the seed coat, but of late there is talk about it being an essential oil from with in the seeds. Either way, it is not readily water soluble. However, the LSA in these seeds is very water soluble. Some people have cleaned the seeds with a non-polar solvent like naphtha, but one does not like consuming such petroleum derived residues.
 
Thus, back to the cold herb tea method. The seeds should be ground in the coffee grinder like described above. Then the seed meal can be mixed  with something like mint leaves or china tea to keep the grounds from caking upon the bottom of the coffee filter. One folds the coffee filters around like an envelope, and then staples them together. Some health food stores, however, sell ready made tea bags that can be ironed shut with some heat. Muslin or cotton tea brew bags will also work. Anyway, it is best to let the tea bad set in cold water in a frig away from light, for heat and UV light can destroy LSA. It only need steep a couple hours, but letting it steep in the frig over night won't hurt it either. One has found that a splash of lemon juice in the water makes it more palatable too.

[SexyMattTheCat]

I filed off the fuzz from them, they seem to contain cyanide which makes people sick...  I plan on doing 12 tomorrow, ill post a Tripp report on what happens.

[PsychedelicArdist]

I ate six of them my first time, and 8 my second time.
I had a better experience the first time, I had the entire mindset no visuals or anything (some small floral patterns when I walked into a dark room but that was it.

The second time, I started feeling it coming on, was getting really psyched about the trip, then my brother and friend left to go mushroom hunting, leaving me home, alone.
It sounds like it could have gone bad (it did for me, but nothing outside of my own mind), but not really. I went outside to look at the sky (it was night), and I saw a green patch of light (not very vivid), and got extremely paranoid, for no reason at all, I wasn't even thinking paranoid, I just felt the sensation of being paranoid.

So I went into my shed to try and just chill (it was a hangout area, couch and all that), and was just completely blank for about four hours. No thoughts, other than when I was thinking about how I couldn't even recollect what was going on in the movie I was watching.

I don't know, it was weird, hard to describe.
It wasn't "ego loss", because I've had that too, I just felt kind of like my life source died, or blanked out for awhile. Then after that I was coming down, at the exact same time repressed memories started surfacing up (I could "feel" them, but wasn't actually thinking them?) and so I would come to "sober" mind, and be fine, then slip back in and freak out, rocking back and forth, throwing up (to relieve the memories, for some reason it helped) and then just felt a strange poison like feeling moving inside my skull for the next few hours while I waited it out in the bathroom.

I have to do them again, and tackle this, or just find out what happened.

Hope it goes well with you!

[SexyMattTheCat]

In the last two weekends I have tried not once but twice on HBWR with a 12 seed dose and gotten nothing. I chewed the seeds till they were a powder and held them in my mouth with lemon juice. Is it a possibility there are false HBWR seeds and I got ripped off from the vendor on Ebay I bought them from? Heres a pic of what I ordered.

http://www.salviasource.org/images/gallery/1694.jpg

[PsychedelicArdist]

I thought you were supposed to eat them?
That worked for me.

I haven't ever heard of using them that way.
I think the only way you can use it like a tincture is if you've extracted it into alchohol.

I really doubt they're fake, they're pretty cheap (especially if you don't buy them from someone who's selling them to trip with).

They could just be old too.

[SexyMattTheCat]

Did you swallow them whole or did you chew them?

[PsychedelicArdist]

I ground them up, and threw them in just enough water so that I could get it all down in one swallow.

[PsychedelicArdist]

Oh, and I looked at your picture by the way.
Those are definately real.

[SexyMattTheCat]

Im just guessing there old seeds

[DrYRHead]

In the last two weekends I have tried not once but twice on HBWR with a 12 seed dose and gotten nothing. I chewed the seeds till they were a powder and held them in my mouth with lemon juice. Is it a possibility there are false HBWR seeds and I got ripped off from the vendor on Ebay I bought them from? Heres a pic of what I ordered.

http://www.salviasource.org/images/gallery/1694.jpg

Those do look like typical HBWR seeds. However, old seeds that have been stored near UV light, and/or in a hot area can loose potency, for those conditions will destroy the LSA in them.

[SexyMattTheCat]

I took a whopping 17 of them last weekend. Not even the slightest difference. I fasted and everything. I'm not buying seeds on ebay ever again...

[PsychedelicArdist]

If you want to experience them I'd get them from BouncingBearBotanicals.

They worked for me.
Really, I don't know if it's even worth it. From what I've read, HBWR isn't that enjoyable, but people that have tried MG seem to enjoy it more.


Maybe they get more/less LSA?
I have no idea really, it's a confusing entity and I'll need to get back to you on that.

[bifster]

There are seeds that are LSA free, Iamshaman sells them.
http://iamshaman.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductUID=1826&ProductCode=IAW-50
You could have gotten some of these on accident.