Kratom dosages

[salvia36md]

So I acquired some kratom in pill form (600mg) and I was curious to know how many I would need to ingest to get the "high"

[Arcygenical]

What's the concentration?

I make a 7x resin puck of the "meng da" variety which is about 3x stronger than most generic loose leaf.

I generally suggest 1g of resin extract (or 7g of regular leaf) for a moderate dose.

[Madmax]

What is the extraction process for this herb? Similar to that of salvia?

[salvia36md]

Heres a extraction guide http://www.iamshaman.com/resins/kratom.htm

[Madmax]

Thanks a bunch! 

[SynapticFlatulence]

I too am completely thrown off by the doseaging for kratom.
I ordered and recieved some 15x powdered extract from bouncing bear botanicals and it states thats its active at 1gram and strong at 3 grams.
loose leaf recomendations are 6 grams for active, so If it were truly 15x then it would be a mere tiny fraction of a gram.
Im really afraid to try this stuff, i dont want to spend my night puking/nausea becuase theres no standardization in kratom extraction processes.

[Arcygenical]

For a 15x extract, I'd go with like, 2g first taken orally, or 4g if making a tea with it.

[DrYRHead]

There are many different qualities and extracted strengths of kratom. If it is commercial grade leaf powder in the pills, each pill may have about a 1/3 to 1/2 gram in it. Thus, 10 pills would/could be a dose.
 
If the pills have an extract in them. Then it depends upon the #X of it. For example, a 500mg pill of 15X would be a low end(mild) dose, 2 to 3 pills a medium dose,  and >4 pills a strong dose.  I've heard of 35X Kratom pills out there, and in such a case 1 pill could be a medium level dose.
 

[SynapticFlatulence]

well I weighed out one gram of 15x standardized extract and mixed it with about 6 oz's of water and chugged it first thing Sunday morning on an empty stomache..
the experience was mirror to taking 2-3 vicodin/percocets but with more energy and less head fog. Nausea was no problem and again on par with taking a couple vics/percs.
Effects lasted a good 6-7 hours . Much longer than expected.
drank gatorade to avoid the diuretic effect and had no ill effects the following day.

Overall i would rate the experience a very positive one.
i think kratom is by far the best kept sectret in botanicals insofar:that being said I will not be turning on any of my friends to it as I can easily see its addictive proprties. This is a potent drug that requires a strong sense of self discipline and restraint. Most of the people i know all struggled with opiate addiction, turning them on to a legal, readily available substitue would be irresponsible and reckless of me.

[DrYRHead]

That is the cool thing about kratom, it does not usually knock one out like true opiates can.

[salvia36md]

Interesting enough, low doses remind me of adderall.

[DrYRHead]

Yes, many have claimed that the low end Kratom doses are mostly just of a stimulant nature.

[hazyshaman]

I just now ordered some kratom from the sagewisdom salvia shop. This will be the first time I have ever used kratom. My question is, "how much plain kratom leaf do I need to get blissful euphoria without vomiting?" I have always held off on buying kratom because of the reported nausea, but I finally gave in. I have in my past used opiates, in fact I was addicted to them for a little while. I would like to achieve that euphoria that I used to get from opiates without the awful addiction part. That's why a friend of mine said to try kratom. He said he has used it every weekend(much like people use alcohol) and has yet to get addicted. From what I have read 5-6 grams of leaf seems to be a good starting dose. What do you guys think?

[DrYRHead]

The typical dose for commercial grade kratom leaf is 3g(mild effect) to 14g(strong effect). It can be made into a tea, or it can be quided and swallowed. One has never gotten nausea from such either.

[JustAnotherRegularGuy]

Kind of off subject, but does anyone know where to buy Kratom and other psychoactive live plants besides Salvia? The more I learn about psychoactive plants the more interested in them I get. It's completely fascinating to me that plants that grow from the ground can have such an affect on humans.

JARG