LSA: HBWR - Need experienced users

[Youpi]

I had 4 seeds (I was sick with 3 so  I wanted to be careful) 2 hours ago and still nothing.
Just a little buzzy, I'm going to eat, hope this will not reduce the trip IF there is one ! (I didnt ate for more than 12 hours so..)

[Youpi]

I'm having an energy boost like my last trip on LSA (with Trip-E caps) it's lighter but the same, I'll re-try with 8 seeds next time, time to smoke some things for me and enjoying, see ya 

[hazyshaman]

I'm surprised you felt anything at only 4 seeds! When I used to dose with HBWR I would use 18-20 fresh hawaiian grown organic seeds ground in a coffee grinder and soaked in lemon juice for an hour. That will put you on the moon(or at least me). I always fasted for 3-4 hours and kept tums or rolaids handy as it would sometimes cause heartburn. Before I dosed I would take a mega vitamin-b complex  as it tends to make the trip come on quicker and also made it more intense. Next time, don't waste your seeds, just dive in and use at least 18. You won't regret it.

[Arcygenical]

Yes, I find MG seeds to be *much* more potent (in the required dose, of course). 10g of MG seeds are always stronger than 20 HBWR seeds for me!

[Youpi]

I just felt the energy boost that I had on my last trip with caps, the I smoked and I was just a bit relxated in addition to the smoke.
Next time I'm gonna take 8 - 10, I think 20 is really a big dose but depends of your body/weight/tolerance/experience/..

About morning glory, I've read that:

*Nogal had this to say about HBWR seeds vs. morning glory seeds:
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"I agree more test definately need to be done in this area, but its possible that pure LSA is alot different than whats in morning glory. Experentially HBWR seeds and morning glory shouldnt even be compared to one another, which indicates that there are other compounds at work. Morning glory is much more similiar to LSD in its visual properties than HBWR, which is more body oriented."
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So, is morning glory really much more different than HBWR or not ? What about the nausea with morning glory seeds, is there more or less nausea than with HBWR ?
I want to start slowly, and I don't think I really need a huge dose since I'm really slim so if morning glory are less or more potent it's not really a problem.
But if we need to take  around 10g of MG, will the taste of the extraction be worse than the taste of HBWR extracted in a glass of water ? I really don't want to drink a lot of the water extract because I nearly threw up while drinking mine yesterday..

Ha, and is there a way to hide that taste, that would be great !

[hazyshaman]

Yes I agree that morning glory seeds are more closely related to LSD in visual effects. They are MUCH less potent per seed than HBWR so much more seed is needed to actually get a trip. 200 heavenly blue seeds for a moderate trip and 250-300 for a strong consciousness expanding spiritual experience. DO NOT buy the store brand seeds such as ferry morse or martha stewart brand as they are coated with fungicides and other vomit-inducing substances to thwart consumption. I always used an electric coffee grinder for my spiritual journeys as just hand grinding them produced minimal effects. Be safe, be responsible, and have fun!
Peace,
HS

[DrYRHead]

For some reason one had found that HBWR seeds do cause more nausea dose per dose then MG seeds do. Some theorize that there is more of the emetic substance in each dose of HBWR then MG. 

[Youpi]

Okay, thanks, I'll give a try to MG (heavenly blue) so 
Today, HBWR for me ))

[Arcygenical]

Good luck!

[Youpi]

Thanks, I had a good time 

[SexyMattTheCat]

Just a little tip for people, Be very suspicious when you buy one ebay, I was ripped off and got false HBWR seeds.

[DrYRHead]

How terrible.  That E-bay can be an iffy place to get stuff. 

[oBEA5To]

Sublingual Absorbtion - Mash the seeds with a hammer or something like that. Put the powder in a shot glass and add a teaspoon of cold water -- stir. Five minutes later, add a squeeze of lime juice and some sugar, stir, and shovel that whole mess into your mouth. It takes some getting used to to have a mouth full of seed grit. Dont swallow it just keep it in your mouth AS LONG AS POSSIBLE then spit out the slurry. This requires more seeds but this helps alot so you dont have to swallow the seeds or eat them (eww) it works for me but everybody is different right just give it a try

[DrYRHead]

CWE of MG or HBWR with a dash of lemon and then filtered via a coffee filter has worked too. Oh, coffee grinders will do a good job on those seeds too, and almost a must if we are talking MG seeds here.