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« on: May 18, 2008, 09:25:12 pm »

Let's speak hypothetical here. Let's say I've smoked pot before and had a slight high. Lets also say that the other night, I took some medicine and about 6 hours later smoked again, and about 20 minutes later got the shit scared out of me. I remember lookign into a light, and I can't remember after that, I saw myself getting thrown into a group and holding onto my friend and trying to get help, I got really hot before the trip started and it was kinda sudden, I also started to talk to my friend, telling him about everything and actually wondering if he was god, right now I'm still torn between reality and dream, its been two days, and i still think sometimes that im still tripping, it's very wierd. I'm rushing now so my description is prolly really bad, but I want to know... Is the trip like that because of the medicine or because of salvia, and also, can anyone tell me what prolly happened? I mean, I was still doing what I was told and following the group but i have no memory of it, and is there anyway of unlocking that brief period of time that I can't remember.. like a meditation technique or anything? I'm just so messed up and can tell if right now reality is real.. Idk if im explaining it right.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 11:17:15 pm »

Can you tell us anything about the medicine you took before?
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 11:25:38 pm »

Yeah knowing the type of medicine would be helpful.

One thing marijuana is known to do is bring back recent drug experiences. For example, it is very common for marijuana to trigger a flashback to a recent mushroom trip. It is possible that marijuana induced this state and if it is causing you trouble I would advise the ceasing use of marijuana.

How recently did you use Salvia and why exactly do you think it may be involved? Did the experience remind you of a Salvia experience?
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2008, 07:31:38 am »

Yeah.

What paradox said is true.
I always enjoy it though! I've never blacked out like that, but the flashbacks it brings me are always enjoyable! I get to feel shroomy without paying!

Woo!


And the not telling what reality is...hmmm.
That's hard to do, even when on a strong psychedelic.

You know what reality is, if you honestly don't, then you never did.

Reality  is just the world as it is without perception being added to it, therefore you've never experienced reality anyway. So losing the feeling of reality is just that, the feeling of losing it.


That's my opinion at least.



Are you young? You don't have to tell me your age or anything, but if you are that would explain why it's lasting so long. Along with why combining that with "medicine" would have an even stronger affect.

And you asked if salvia did that, but nowhere in your post did you say that you did salvia.
I'm confused.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2008, 12:54:16 pm »

It was a daytime medicine, like nyquil but for day instead of night. And Yes, I've done salvia.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 01:16:27 pm »

Are you "fine" now?
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 01:36:24 pm »

Yea, It stopped today, I did it Friday, now its monday and it stopped today
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 05:23:09 pm »

Maybe it was a combination of DXM and weed...
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2008, 06:48:09 pm »

You probably just smoked some decent stuff and got stoned. Most people who start to smoke marijuana misinterpret the affects due to the fact you don't get high the first few times. This shit happened to me when I first started smoking. I did so 3 times previous to this and wouldn't say I was high but then the 4th time I did I tripped insane balls. The affects are so intense I can compare it to my shroom trip. Get Really Hot, You completely forget every other topic, and then people begin to look like strangers and the doors starts playing in your head. Then the next morning you have thc still in you but it isn't releasing any pleasure hormones so you feel weird as shit. Just wait a week and then blaze again and it will be better and less intense.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 09:01:58 pm »

I've done it quite a bit man, and it wasnt that great of stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2008, 10:56:07 pm »

i have had a simler exspexe  every time and i have a theary as to why i wonce form very relible member of the medical reseach fiald that alot of the subjective aspet of pot are learned form simple exsposre to head space and its my theory that people who smoke alot evetuly devople this phonon simply form the the pot high evolving with a lot of time spent in that state of mind. i aulty had to stop smokeing becouse it start to become disableing and very diffulct to function and anther theory i once heard whas the thc bulid up theory witch is smiply that becouse thc takes so long to
leave the body high get more and more powerful each time you smoke. i have seen the ocurts with a lot of heavy smokers that i knew at won point ether way its probly a sign you should at lest give it a break for a while and let the thc detoxe form your body your body so i will say give it about three mounths no pot and see how it goes after that
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2008, 10:31:47 pm »

i have had a simler exspexe  every time and i have a theary as to why i wonce form very relible member of the medical reseach fiald that alot of the subjective aspet of pot are learned form simple exsposre to head space and its my theory that people who smoke alot evetuly devople this phonon simply form the the pot high evolving with a lot of time spent in that state of mind. i aulty had to stop smokeing becouse it start to become disableing and very diffulct to function and anther theory i once heard whas the thc bulid up theory witch is smiply that becouse thc takes so long to
leave the body high get more and more powerful each time you smoke. i have seen the ocurts with a lot of heavy smokers that i knew at won point ether way its probly a sign you should at lest give it a break for a while and let the thc detoxe form your body your body so i will say give it about three mounths no pot and see how it goes after that

Those are all well thought theories, but I can tell you from a physiological perspective that THC does not remain psychoactive once it has deposited into fat cells. After the THC and CBD have traveled from the lung tissue and into the blood stream and carried to the brain, it remains psychoactive for aproximately 2-3 hours. As it is being metabolised by the body, it undergoes changes before it enters fat cells. There it stays until your body uses up this particular fat store. Your body is constantly adding new stores and burning old stores for fuel. For THC to build up to levels high enough to actually affect neuroactivity, the bodys' metabolic processes would have to cease for some time. This of course would mean you die.
What he was experiencing was somewhere in the ball park of cross tolerance. The DXM was in his system before he smoked, once he smoked, it acted on the same area of the brain causing an overstimulation of those receptors hence the TRIP effect. DXM also acts on the sympathetic nervous system which is why it is valuable for cough suppression. An overstimulation of the sympathetic nervous system can cause respiratory problems and panic attacks.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2008, 11:09:07 pm »

You seem to be experiencing egotistical disconnection... A feeling where your consciousness is no longer firmly planted within your "self". This may or may not be accompanied with intense feelings of extraspection (the opposite of introspection), a feeling of "watching yourself perform actions rather than performing them yourself" and perhaps even a temporary questioning as to whether or not your conscious self is doing what it's actually doing... Additionally, tasks often seem to be shifted from conscious or deliberate activity to the subconscious... For example walking while thinking might lead to a task distribution where your subconscious deals with walking, and your conscious deals with thinking (perhaps about something important that's recently happening). This may lead you to wind up doing the unconscious action for many minutes before you realize what's going on... You might miss a bus stop, walk past your target, exercise too long, eat way more than you intended, etc.

This is fairly normal, and accompanies many psychoactive substances, even alcohol...
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2008, 11:35:45 pm »



Those are all well thought theories, but I can tell you from a physiological perspective that THC does not remain psychoactive once it has deposited into fat cells. After the THC and CBD have traveled from the lung tissue and into the blood stream and carried to the brain, it remains psychoactive for aproximately 2-3 hours. As it is being metabolised by the body, it undergoes changes before it enters fat cells. There it stays until your body uses up this particular fat store. Your body is constantly adding new stores and burning old stores for fuel. For THC to build up to levels high enough to actually affect neuroactivity, the bodys' metabolic processes would have to cease for some time. This of course would mean you die.
What he was experiencing was somewhere in the ball park of cross tolerance. The DXM was in his system before he smoked, once he smoked, it acted on the same area of the brain causing an overstimulation of those receptors hence the TRIP effect. DXM also acts on the sympathetic nervous system which is why it is valuable for cough suppression. An overstimulation of the sympathetic nervous system can cause respiratory problems and panic attacks.


i exspreaced a silmire recatoin before any other drug was ever put into my body and now it happens any time i smoke i dont person thc bulid up theay i silly to me too but it was a point i did hear but i do beleve in the learned exsprence thorey becouse i have seen the same change in a lot of smoker and most just smoke pot its it is known the the exspreace of the high of many drugs changes as the user becomes more exspreced with the drug
for exsample when a peopleson over uses a phacdellc the trip tend to drifft in to more nonsenceal thing rather then
imparting insight or wisdom
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