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« on: January 16, 2008, 10:20:10 pm »

i cant figure out where this should technicaly go but anyway.

so yesterday i was hanging out after work with this girl that i fancy but shes not exactly what one would call a "head". I had been telling her over the past month or 2 about my recent experiences with the plant, both directly and indirectly in dreams.  And she says "oh My! i was with my friend back home and she was telling me about how some killed himself on  that plant that you were talking about."  Immediately i knew what she was talking about and retorted "That is a blatant lie!" and then continued to explain the benneficial (and negative, overwhelming) effects and attributes of S.div not to mention the thousands of years of SAFE cultivation and use by other civilizations. I then debunked this claim of the teenager killing himself ect, and launching myself into a tyrade about how parents need to take responsibility and Care-of thier kids, which on the whole they are not doing while focused on thier ever more-important-than-offspring careers. Parental responsibility issues aside I felt good to be able to defend SD in public, and to be knowlegeable enough to answer any questions that came up.  Another plus is a mutual friend of ours who had only heard of SD in passing was able to be appart of the conversation and i was able to educate him aswell, passing some positive vibes to hopefully stem the tide of ignorant, media-driven "knowledge" thats floating around about SD.

Let those who have ears, listen and those who have eyes, see:
I think its most important especialy on a sencitive subject such as a halucinogenic substance to pick battles and pick them well, One cannot stand on a corner preaching S.Div to the masses, lest they turn thier heads and belive you to be under the control of such a devious and irritating, and invasive a substance to be invading thier personal space. This is why I try to wait untill someone brings up the subject and if they have something wrong in thier speach ill correct them, and if they want to learn then i will teach them as much as i can. This is all we can do as individuals. always give them something good when they ask
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 01:10:19 am »

I love how the kid's parents' marriage was down the tubes, they were practically divorcing, and they blame it on Salvia.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 12:30:09 pm »

Yes: it is important to be a spokesperson for Salvia when you hear mis-information being passed around as fact.

I have been very active as a Salvia divinorum advocate: even going so far as to go on record publicly as opposing the original text of AB259 (I was one of the 7 private citizens listed as opposition to AB259 as it was originally written).

I sent very nice Certified letters to each member of the committee last year when they first proposed Salvia divinorum to be a felony here in California.  Read it here:  http://members.cox.net/sageseeds/sentab259.pdf

The original text of AB259 was:
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BILL NUMBER: AB 259   INTRODUCED
   BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY   Assembly Member Adams

                        FEBRUARY 5, 2007

   An act to amend Section 11054 of the Health and Safety Code,
relating to controlled substances.


   LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


   AB 259, as introduced, Adams. Controlled substances: Schedule I.
   Existing law lists various controlled hallucinogenic substances in
Schedule I.
   This bill would add Salvia Divinorum to that list.
   Because this bill would expand the definition of existing crimes,
it would create a state-mandated local program.
   The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
   This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.
   Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

  SECTION 1.  Section 11054 of the Health and Safety Code is amended
to read:
and then a long list of illegal dope: with Salvia divinorum added to the hallucinogens section as a schedule one felony.

I sent another nice certified letter to them all:  http://members.cox.net/sageseeds/ab259.html

Apparently Assemblyman Adams took the time to read the objections all of us collectively voiced.  Just before the bill was to be reheard he changed the Text of AB259.

Monday the 7th of Jan 2008: AB259 had it's wording changed!

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0251-0300/ab_259_bill_20080107_amended_asm_v97.html


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"LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST:

   AB 259, as amended, Adams.

Under existing law, the sale or distribution of specified
intoxicating substances is a crime, punishable by imprisonment or a
fine.
   This bill would make the sale or distribution of Salvia divinorum
or Salvinorin A, or any substance or material containing Salvia
divinorum or Salvinorin A, to any person under 18 years of age a
misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not more
than 6 months, by a fine of no more than $1,000, or both.
   Because this bill would create a new crime  , it would impose  a
state-mandated local program.
   The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
   This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.
   Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

   SECTION 1.    Section 379 is added to the
Penal Code   , to read:
   379.  Every person who sells, dispenses, distributes, furnishes,
administers, gives, or offers to sell, dispense, distribute, furnish,
administer, or give Salvia divinorum or Salvinorin A, or any
substance or material containing Salvia divinorum or Salvinorin A, to
any person who is less than 18 years of age, is guilty of a
misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding
six months, or by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars
($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.
   SEC. 2.    No reimbursement is required by this act
pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
Constitution because the only costs that may be incurred by a local
agency or school district will be incurred because this act creates a
new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or
changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of
Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a
crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the
California Constitution.  "

And it passed Committee vote 7 to 0! Section 379 is to be heard by the next committee on the 24th ...

Who says Salvia advocacy doesn't work? I've helped a LOT of people get over their initial fear and "Get to know her".

Long may she Live!
 
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2008, 10:09:58 pm »

that is awesome seamac
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 10:41:34 pm »

That's really cool Sea Mac, good to see that they realized a total ban was not the way to go.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 06:58:03 pm »

Good job Sea Mac. Smiley  I think though that salvia could traumatize someone significantly if they are already in a bad state to begin with.  Just an aggravating factor though, I think it would have likely happened anyway, just maybe a few days or weeks later.  I have noticed feeling more motivation to carry out my plans after smoking salvia.
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