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Topic: A Letter to California Legislators from Daniel Siebert  (Read 2921 times)
 
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2007, 09:43:15 pm »

Yeah, you're right ... 

But I can't think of a Single news story that mentioned the possible medications that we will get from this Sacred plant.

A friend of mine just had a "First Experience" with salvia - and they have had a good night's sleep 2 nights running: with dreams and without the Sleeping medication!  Salvia is VERY Good at "Curing" insomnia, as my friend has just learned ...

And this person hasn't had a drug free decent night's rest in years (I think).

Just a couple of puffs of plain old leaf I grew in my garden: two nights good sleep running (and counting) - PRICELESS!

My heart aches when I think of how many people would kill for a good night's sleep (other than falling asleep at the wheel) and they may never hear the name of an All-Natural remedy - other than as a passing mention something as 'another dangerous hallucinogen was made illegal, for the public good, today ...'

Tired Lawmakers fail to use good judgment and make laws based solely upon the made up stories they see on TV. TV sound bites appear to be as much research as SOME lawmakers are capable of ...



Now, now Carl: calm down - remember your blood pressure ...

Chant your Mantra you use when dealing with these #%$@*&g idiots ....

{deep breath} "Never attribute to Malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity."     Grin  Grin   Grin   Grin  Grin   Grin   Grin  rofl
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2007, 08:29:23 pm »

Heheh, yeah very true. But I have heard of many news stories that do mention that it may have medical potential. However, they never specify as to what it might help with. The reason for this is probably because there hasn't yet been a formal study to prove that its actually effective, all we have so far is anecdotal evidence. I'm thinking the clinical trials will probably start soon because the pharm companies have already patented many analogs of salvinorin A.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2007, 02:11:26 pm »

Here we go again ....

"Mr. Greenleaves" sent me a heads up this morning ... Thanx buddy!

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AB 259     http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=ab_259&sess=CUR&house=B&search_type=email
STATUS http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0251-0300/ab_259_bill_20071217_status.html    

   CURRENT BILL STATUS


MEASURE   :  A.B. No. 259
AUTHOR(S)   :  Adams.
TOPIC   :  Controlled substances: Schedule I.
HOUSE LOCATION   :  ASM
+LAST AMENDED DATE  :  03/12/2007


TYPE OF BILL : 
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Non-Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  03/27/2007
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  In committee:  Set first hearing.  Failed passage.
   Reconsideration granted.
COMM. LOCATION   :  ASM PUBLIC SAFETY
HEARING DATE   :  01/15/2008

TITLE   :  An act to amend Section 11054 of the Health and Safety
   Code, relating to controlled substances.



Misguided California Legislators are again trying to make Salvia divinorum use a Felony!

I'll post Names and addresses and email contact addresses in a bit ...
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2007, 04:26:02 am »

Who is this Adams pig that wrote the bill?  Angry
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2007, 05:22:23 pm »

Did a little searching and found Anthony Adams. Seems like he fits the description perfectly of someone who has head the basic effects of Salvia, and that it is legal, and decided to take it upon himself to make it illegal. Here's an editorial he put up on his website:

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California Must Outlaw Salvia To Protect Our Kids

Drug abuse is a growing problem throughout California. It’s a silent tragedy that often tears families apart, threatens safety in our neighborhoods and exposes our kids to some serious health problems before they even have a chance to succeed in life.

Parents, teachers and local law enforcement are working together not only to shut down production of dangerous drugs and punish the drug pushers who are trying to hurt our children, but more importantly, to keep these harmful drugs out of our schools and away from our kids in the first place.

Recently, the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department shared with me a disturbing trend among young people in our local schools. More and more high school students in our area and in suburbs across the nation are abusing the dangerous drug Salvia or Salvia Divinorum, a drug that is rising in popularity amongst high school and college students for its highly-potent hallucinogenic effects.

Salvia is a naturally grown, mint-like leaf which many users have equated to that experienced when using the mind-altering drug LSD. Individuals who have felt a Salvia high say that they thought they were having an out-of-body experience when abusing the drug. Other side effects include uncontrollable laughter, appearing to travel to other times and other places, a feeling of total confusion or near-madness and a sense that you are flying or floating.

Like me, you may be surprised to learn that Salvia is completely legal in California and many other states. I believe we should listen to the concerns of parents and law enforcement, and not sit idly by while a dangerous and powerful drug is being sold and distributed freely and legally in our communities.

Working closely with the San Bernardino County Sheriff, I have introduced legislation, Assembly Bill 259, to outlaw Salvia in California, adding the drug to the list of narcotics that are illegal in this state. Under my proposal, those who are found growing, selling or possessing Salvia would be guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony, depending upon the severity of the case, and subject to time in county jail or state prison for their offense.

Keeping our communities safe from the scourge of drugs and violent crime should not be a partisan issue. In recent years, our local Democrat Congressman Joe Baca has been fighting hard in Washington to ban Salvia nationwide, and I’m pleased to carry the bipartisan torch to outlaw Salvia at the state level in Sacramento.

Unfortunately, Democrats on the Assembly Public Safety Committee have a different agenda, and refused to support my legislation when it came up for its first hearing. There shouldn’t be a partisan debate when it comes to protecting our families from dangerous drugs.
As Californians, we must stand united against drug abuse by making Salvia illegal. I look forward to continuing to work with my colleagues in a bipartisan manner to address this growing problem to protect our families, our kids and our communities.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2007, 07:07:03 pm »

Here we go again. Sea Mac are you going to be attending the hearing? We should try to round up a few California residents that would be willing to go in defense of Salvia. Just as in Maine people should suggest an ban for minors only. I think theres a really good chance in stopping the ban if just a couple people go to oppose it.

You should start a topic with a map and all the information needed to attend. I can help by posting the message on other forums as well.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2007, 11:37:45 pm »

It sounds like another Republican drug warrior that thinks that Hallucinogens are narcotics. Does he know that vendors DO NOT sell SD to minors, but that street level drug pushers WOULD?  Roll Eyes
 
Why does he not go after alcohol, for that is one DRUG that is actually killing kids. Of course, he probably drinks, and may have stock in that industry. Thus, he would most likely protect alcohol.  Undecided
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2008, 04:03:41 pm »

It's well past time I updated this topic: because it has a happy ending now.

When I last posted: AB259 was still going to make salvia possession a felony in California and the hearing was going to be on January 15, 2008.

I sent a formal letter of opposition, on nice parchment paper, by certified mail, to the California assembly (the public safety committee) explaining why salvia should not be scheduled as a felony. Here is that letter:    http://members.cox.net/sageseeds/ab259o.html .

I was listed as one of the seven private citizens in opposition to the bill. And then something wonderful happened: Assemblyman Adams read the letters of opposition to his bill - and did the research. He changed the wording of the bill so it would no longer be a felony for Californians to grow or possess: it will be a misdemeanor to provide salvia to a minor if AB259 makes it into law (as section 379 of the California Penal Code).

Since California is now considering a simple (reasonable) prohibition on selling to minors: I am no longer opposed California's proposed ban on Salvia.  It has passed the Assembly and is now in the Senate: in the final committee. We hope soon the governor will sign section 379 of the California Penal Code into law.

Let this be a lesson: citizen advocacy can make all the difference! And feel free to use all parts of that letter you need!
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2008, 05:15:43 pm »

AWESOME! See this is all it takes people.

How did you find out you were one of the seven sending letters opposing a ban?
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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2008, 06:49:28 pm »

On the bottom of this page:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0251-0300/ab_259_cfa_20080114_101818_asm_comm.html

It merely states:

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REGISTERED SUPPORT / OPPOSITION  :   

           Support
           
          San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department (Sponsor)
          California Peace Officers' Association
          California Police Chiefs Association
          California State Sheriffs' Association
          Peace Officer Research Association of California
          Sacramento County Sheriff's Department
          Wonderland Treatment Center

           Opposition
           
          California Attorneys for Criminal Justice
          Drug Policy Alliance Network
          Seven private individuals
           

          Analysis Prepared by  :    Gregory Pagan / PUB. S.


It didn't list individuals names BUT

I spent nearly $40 buying parchment grade paper and envelopes and on sending 7 certified letters to all the committee members. All I have is the Certified Mail receipts ...

It was worth it!
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2008, 08:24:36 pm »

Good work, SeaMac. Most of the ones that want to Ban it are cops.  Roll Eyes I don't think that most of them even really  know what SD is.  Undecided 
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2008, 08:39:37 pm »


Yes, now of days we can at least get wind of legislation being planned against SD ahead of time. Back when laws were past against MJ, the law makers pretty much had their own little secret society. When Physicians heard that the politicians had made a commonly prescribed drug like Cannabis  illegal in 1937, they were shocked. They did not even have any time to protest the laws.  Undecided
 
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