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Topic: Another one down (Illinois)  (Read 765 times)
 
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« on: August 19, 2007, 01:37:11 pm »

I'm sorry I didn't post this when it happened but........................FUCK

In Illinois: "Blagojevich signed HB0457 into law on Friday August 17, 2007. The law comes into effect on January 1, 2008"

Every part of the plant including extract has been banned: salvinorin A however, is still legal.

Man this really blows, salvia can't afford these states, it's just gonna encourage the Federal gov to make the same decision.

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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2007, 04:36:34 pm »

I always hate to hear this stuff, especially when the reason for making it illegal given is so blatantly untrue. Check out the reasoning given by Reboletti's, the bills founder:
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Salvia is a powerful psychoactive plant which in appearance looks like marijuana but has the psychoactive properties of LSD". Reboletti said, "As a former Will County prosecutor, I have seen first hand the devastation that drug use has on families and the community. It’s important that we in the legislature are proactive in protecting our children from highly addictive substances" and "For a drug to be classified as a Schedule 1 substance signifies that it’s a highly dangerous and potentially lethal drug for its user. Hopefully, the passage of my bill will bring attention to "Magic Mint" and help law enforcement combat the future rise of this drug.


Although Salvinorin-A is not mentioned, it still seems like it could land you in trouble if you had it as this is the laws wording:
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Schedule I classification for Salvia divinorum (including "the seeds thereof, any extract from any part of that plant, and every compound, derivative, mixture, or preparation of that plant")


However, perhaps permission could be granted for research purposes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 09:53:03 pm »

The bill founder knows little to nothing about it, so I'm assuming that he does not know about the active constituent, Salvionorin A. When he wrote that poorly written piece of trash bill, he seems to not have even researched it at all.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2007, 11:55:12 pm »

"looks like marijuana"
I don't get it. lmao

How could they put a law like that into effect if they can't even give a proper description of the plant's appearence?
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2007, 11:57:09 pm »

I don't get it either.  :roll:
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 09:21:11 am »

It is nothing short of retarded: Let's all make laws based solely on what the TV set tells us!

He'll find out what he did when he dies and tries to get into heaven "for doing God's work on earth".

Between organized intolerant religion and TV Retardedness all the Evils of the world come about!
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 01:16:09 pm »

Quote from: "Sea Mac"
It is nothing short of retarded: Let's all make laws based solely on what the TV set tells us!

He'll find out what he did when he dies and tries to get into heaven "for doing God's work on earth".

Between organized intolerant religion and TV Retardedness all the Evils of the world come about!



Exactly- From the Prohibition days to modern blue laws and the drug war- it's all about "moral" control.
Alcohol and Tobacco are much more dangerous than most mind expanding drugs, yet those are legal, so they cannot say its all about "our safety"  :?

Anything that offers an entheogenic experience that doesn't fit into the beliefs of the local organized religion is made illegal (sinful).
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2007, 03:13:23 am »

It is like I've said before; "Politicians  :evil:  are more scared of hallucinogens than narcotics." They fear things that may make people question the powers that be. They accused LSD and MJ of doing such back in the 60s.  :roll:  

Just think about it a moment. Drunks are easily rallied to fight, and narcotic addicts can be led around like sheep. However, those mind expanded hippies did not want to fight.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 12:25:37 am »

I might agree that MJ and LSD cause you to question the powers that keep you in place. Maybe its just a coincidence, but most all the people I know that dont smoke weed seem to be of the type that question their reality less and in general just accept things as they are. I mean I know when I get high or do psychedelics it causes me to think deeper about why I am here and why things are they way they are. However, it is also conceivable that the types of people who stay away from weed (usually because they are scared just because its illegal) do so for the same reasons they don't question the status quo, they just go along following all laws and doing what 'we are supposed to do.'

I could ramble on about this, because our drug system really is so backward that its mind-blowing. I would say though that the major reason alcohol and tobacco have remained legal is completely due to tradition. As far as marijuana I think the climate is changing, slowly, but progress is being made.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 02:36:49 am »

Traditionally conservatives fear change too.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 01:32:03 pm »

How many states is trhat now?  :roll:
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