Florida legal status

[eno]

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=37272&BillText=salvia&HouseChamber=H&SessionId=57&

I think this page will track the progress of the Bill.

 03/20/08 S Now in Criminal and Civil Justice Appropriations -SJ 00286    Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:13 PM        

03/19/08 S Favorable by Health Regulation; YEAS 7 NAYS 0 -SJ 00286   Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:26 PM

Isn't the Internet great? We can now see our freedoms being taken away... in real time!   

[mconlonx]

Isn't the Internet great? We can now see our freedoms being taken away... in real time!   

Or use the info on the website to know who to contact when writing in opposition to a ban. Or actually attend a public hearing to speak out against bans. Lots can be done with this rather than just sitting back and waiting for it to happen... if you catch it soon enough in your state.

[Sea Mac]

So, what, it's too late to oppose it in Florida?

No more hearings? They decided before anyone could attend and protest, HUH?

Or is there still a chance to speak out at a hearing?

[eno]

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=2008s0340.ja.doc&DocumentType=Analysis&BillNumber=0340&Session=2008

A substance considered for scheduling in Schedule I must meet these criteria: (1) the substance has a high
potential for abuse; (2) the substance does not have an accepted medical use in treatment in the
United States; (3) and in its use under medical supervision the substance does not meet accepted
safety standards.

So there are three criteria, and here is how they justified them.

(1)  The potential for abuse is serious or high because a designation of low potential for abuse would suggest that these substances are being taken on the basis of professional medical advice, which is not the case.

(2) They have no accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

(3) Finally, since there is no accepted medical use, it logically follows that these substances cannot
be used under medical supervision that meets accepted safety standards.

For (1), that say that is actually one of the definitions of "potential for abuse": taken on the user’s own initiative rather than on the basis of professional medical advice.

It seems that they will add Salvia to Schedule I, but will allow any salvia-derived drugs approved by the FDA. Also, they cite another law that allows medical research with salvia. Which is weird, because if there are FDA drugs, wouldn't that mean there is an accepted medical use? But currently, there are none.

Also, it seems to me lots of (legal) herbs and other things would fall under that (1) (2) and (3), unless there is more to it!

By the way, I know nothing about law, this is just what I gathered from reading this. 

Damn, these people are scumbags. But honestly, I can't argue with their logic, even though it's based on crap assumptions. They can probably justify making anything they want illegal just like this...


Sea Mac, I don't know. I guess people could have gone and protested... I didn't, though. I'm honestly not sure I would be very convincing. I don't know what to say. These people just won't agree with me; they are probably against hallucinogenic drugs in principle...

Salvia = hallucinations = LSD, shrooms, ... = Schedule I = BAN! 

I just don't think there's a realistic chance I, or anyone, could change their minds. And we can't use the medical research argument, because they specifically cited a law that allowed that...

[Sea Mac]

You can still fight it - Claim it's a religious sacrament and they are attempting to legislate your spiritual practices.

You'll have to incorporate a church BEFORE they make it a Felony though.

[skagardener]

july 1st it seems is when it becomes illegal in florida. 

[scifipirate]

july 1st it seems is when it becomes illegal in florida. 

yeah, that's what the word on the street is, I just bought 2 plants while I could.

[Madmax]

Three thoughts occur to me:

1) Salvia wil become illegal in Florida due to ignorance and apathy.

2) You won't be able to change this.

3) Florida is a great place to grow salvia year round, and the local constabulary won't know what it is tbecause he plants themselves are not prevalent there...

[Sea Mac]

Rooted Salvia cuttings should be planted ALL Over Florida to grow wild: the Everglades / Along river beds / Beside Lakes - anywhere shade and water are available year round! 

By writ of Law have they declared Nature to be a felon. They are retarded and they will SEE that when they die.

Plant them NOW! Spread it wide.  Make them spend billions trying to eradicate an Invasive weed.

[DrYRHead]

Yes, the irony of it. Florida is one of the few parts of the USA that SD can grow wild/feral. 

[spindrifter]

Alright everybody, start trying to produce seed, and we'll rent a plane and dump it out the window over every county!