List of irresponsible Salvia vendors

[Paradoxic]

Yeah, yours is pretty good. You give the appropriate warnings. My personal opinion however, is that 60X is quite excessive and I would prefer you sold less concentrated extracts...just because its harder to measure out a dose and therefore easier to lose control at those high concentrations.

Interesting point. Maybe I'll add a bit more of a warning to that product's description. Also, if you ever get that document written, I'll probably link to that from my main salvia category page.

Sweet, sounds good...and I definitely will have that document written eventually.

[Pacman21]

I love how most companies post messages saying "This product (salvia) is not used for ingestion". Do these companies truly think that these people are buying salvia just to smell it or look at it?? I think instead of being in denile, I think the companies should focus on posting users to be responsible.. Its kinda like seeing an alcohol being for sale saying "not for ingestion". The alcohol says "Drink Responisibly".. Salvia should say "Use Responsibly" instead of "not for ingestive purposes". Tell me what you think.. 

[Paradoxic]

Yeah I definitely think so too. The reason, however, they do that is because technically its illegal to sell Salvia for human consumption anywhere in the US. This is because there is a law that forbids selling anything not approved by the FDA for human consumption. I doubt anyone has gotten snagged for doing that though.

I do think that it would be ok to have some responsible use info on the shop page, but then also put a notice that says not for human consumption...I know its contradictive but most people will realize that this is just for legal purposes.

[Pacman21]

I have a couple words of wisdom.. "DAMN THE MAN".. The man trys to bring us down all the time.. Why cant the government just let us be?? Doing salvia mainly does not cause dangerous behavior.. Also, why should drugs like salvia and marijuana that are not addicting be illegal while drugs like tobacco and nicotine that are addicting be legal?? Actually, this is an easy question.. THE UNITED STATES GROWS TOBACCO.. Its all about money.. The only good thing about government making drugs illegal is the price of the drugs go upp which opens up alot of businesses on the black market.. But still.. DAMN THE MAN..

[Synchronium]

One more to add to the list: thesalviastore.co.nr

Why? They seem quite happy to sell to anyone regardless of age: Link

Has anyone done anything about these guys?

Remember linking directly to these sites helps them in the search engines, so don't post live links to them!

[penumbra]

The salviastore.co.nr encourages you to click their Google ads. This is a direct violation of the adsense contract and they can have their publisher Id revoked because of this sentence:

If you don't believe that we have the lowest prices around, check out the ads on the left to compare us to our competition.

[Synchronium]

Sweet. Where do you report people like that?

[Paradoxic]

Looks like someone may have beat us to it...salviastore.co.nr is gone 

[SalviaCrazy]

Purple Sticky Salvia is why Salvia will be illegal in all of the USA within 5 years!  They sell 160X what the hell is that you can put a little piece in not even the size of the corner of a piece of paper and trip out from that.  They should stop selling that or else they will be out of business anyways because they won't be allowed to sell online or in stores because it will be illegal.

[salviafan]

New member here, I have a question for you... On what basis did you determine that Purple Sticky Salvia will affect salvias legality? Nowhere on their site do they market as an "alternative to" anything, there are no references to recreational drugs, nor do they sell or market to anyone under 18. They do offer very potent extracts, but simply offering a top-quality extract should be no reason to declare them "irresponsible". It is no wonder that a company that profits from the sale of a product, would not want to link to a website that sells salvia. You will not find many companies with links to other brands of their product on their website. Sorry, I realize I may be taking an unpopular stance here... but according to the intro of the post, none of the criteria are met by by Purplestickysalvia.com, yet they made the blacklist.

As I am sure you are aware, any company providing a product is responsible for it. If you sell a product for human consumption, it must pass through the various government agencies. Salvia is not legal to be sold for human consumption, that is a fact. So a salvia seller providing information on a public website as to how to break (or bend)  the law, will not give salvia a more legitimate name, but instead re-enforce the "salvia is for drug users" mentality.

If salvia will become illegal, it will surely be due to the fact that it is not completely understood. People like daniel seibert are doing great things as far as helping people realize how salvia can help people. Companies that sell salvia are constantly exposing new people to it, which is necessary if we expect to teach people about this herb. Keeping it "under wraps" will not make it stay legal, only avoid the issue for a bit longer. Just look at the cases where potential laws were "on the table" and were struck down because of the people (salvia users) who stood up for it.

I applaud your effort to protect the herb we all hold so dear, but I do think you are misguided. Instead of making demands from companies that you have no direct influence over, try doing something constructive. Have you donated to daniel seibert? Have you written letters to congress? Have you tried to help change the laws that require companies to "dodge the issue" by leaving proper use guidelines off of their product? I don't know, but maybe before you start knocking a company down you can find a better way of helping salvia, or at least using the publicity of this website to properly "out" real irresponsible sellers, the ones that do market it as a drug. Salvia was here before all of us, and will be here long after we are gone... Use your power to help, not just spew random insults without any kind of reasoning. Purple sticky salvia has brought salvia much mainstream exposure, love it or hate it, it is necessary if you want people to stand up for our rights to have legal salvia.

I am sure that some of you do actually help, and I mean no offense. I realize that everyone has their own opinions, but following the facts will get us all further than just slinging insults. Look again "salviaCrazy" the extract you are referring to is "160 Atomix" which is a 40x extract. And it does say that clearly on their website.  Let's just stick to the facts, and keep salvia legal for all of us!

[JustAnotherRegularGuy]

Welcome to the forums salviafan!

Just have to point out the obvious here....It sounds like you work for or are affiliated with PurpleSticky. No offense if you do and we welcome your comments here.

But I think the reason PurpleSticky made the black list is because the website clearly takes the recreational approach. They use the slogan "Pleasure is the Pursuit" and "Rip it Stir it Slam it". It clearly gives the customer the impression that these products should be bought because they are "fun". And to even further the reason they are on the black list is because (unless I missed it) there is no where showing how to use Salvia responsibly. The website makes sure that the customer knows they are getting a high end product that is top grade, but makes no mention that higher dosages could lead to a very frightening experience. All that AND the website also sells "party products" indicating that Salvia is mixed in with recreation when it should not be.

JARG

[Synchronium]

Just have to point out the obvious here....It sounds like you work for or are affiliated with PurpleSticky.

Glad someone else noticed...